* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 14:12 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn, Matthias Brugger
Cc: Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-pci, linux-mediatek,
Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger, Joe Perches, kernel-janitors,
linux-kernel
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
> > > it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
> > > linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
> > > quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
> > > e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
> > > yet permitted on the actual list.
> > >
> >
> > I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
> > to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
> >
>
> Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
> forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
> that mail showed up so quickly.
>
> Thanks for the explanation.
AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
that way.
Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
MAINTAINERS file lists.
> Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> please pick this patch?
I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 14:12 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn, Matthias Brugger
Cc: Ryder Lee, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Joe Perches, linux-mediatek, Bjorn Helgaas,
Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
> > > it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
> > > linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
> > > quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
> > > e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
> > > yet permitted on the actual list.
> > >
> >
> > I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
> > to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
> >
>
> Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
> forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
> that mail showed up so quickly.
>
> Thanks for the explanation.
AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
that way.
Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
MAINTAINERS file lists.
> Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> please pick this patch?
I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
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_______________________________________________
Linux-mediatek mailing list
Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
2020-09-14 14:12 ` David Woodhouse
(?)
@ 2020-09-14 14:57 ` Lukas Bulwahn
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > > I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
> > > > it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
> > > > linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
> > > > quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
> > > > e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
> > > > yet permitted on the actual list.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
> > > to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
> > >
> >
> > Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
> > forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
> > that mail showed up so quickly.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation.
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
> > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> > please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
I will then adjust MAINTAINERS to the final conclusion.
Lukas
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 14:57 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Lukas Bulwahn, Matthias Brugger, Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas,
linux-pci, linux-mediatek, Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger,
Joe Perches, kernel-janitors, linux-kernel
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > > I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
> > > > it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
> > > > linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
> > > > quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
> > > > e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
> > > > yet permitted on the actual list.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
> > > to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
> > >
> >
> > Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
> > forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
> > that mail showed up so quickly.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation.
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
> > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> > please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
I will then adjust MAINTAINERS to the final conclusion.
Lukas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 42+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 14:57 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > > I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
> > > > it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
> > > > linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
> > > > quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
> > > > e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
> > > > yet permitted on the actual list.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
> > > to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
> > >
> >
> > Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
> > forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
> > that mail showed up so quickly.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation.
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
> > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> > please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
I will then adjust MAINTAINERS to the final conclusion.
Lukas
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_______________________________________________
Linux-mediatek mailing list
Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
2020-09-14 14:57 ` Lukas Bulwahn
(?)
@ 2020-09-14 15:16 ` David Woodhouse
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Ryder Lee, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Joe Perches, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:57 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
> and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
It really isn't.
# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
# legal values are:
# 0 = "Accept"
# 1 = "Hold"
# 2 = "Reject"
# 3 = "Discard"
generic_nonmember_action = 0
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:16 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Matthias Brugger, Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-pci,
linux-mediatek, Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger, Joe Perches,
kernel-janitors, linux-kernel
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:57 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
> and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
It really isn't.
# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
# legal values are:
# 0 = "Accept"
# 1 = "Hold"
# 2 = "Reject"
# 3 = "Discard"
generic_nonmember_action = 0
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:16 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Ryder Lee, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Joe Perches, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:57 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
> and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
It really isn't.
# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
# legal values are:
# 0 = "Accept"
# 1 = "Hold"
# 2 = "Reject"
# 3 = "Discard"
generic_nonmember_action = 0
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_______________________________________________
Linux-mediatek mailing list
Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
2020-09-14 15:16 ` David Woodhouse
(?)
@ 2020-09-14 15:23 ` Lukas Bulwahn
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:57 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
> > and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
>
> It really isn't.
>
> # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> # legal values are:
> # 0 = "Accept"
> # 1 = "Hold"
> # 2 = "Reject"
> # 3 = "Discard"
> generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
lists?
$ grep "lists.infradead.org" MAINTAINERS | sort | uniq
L: ath10k@lists.infradead.org
L: ath11k@lists.infradead.org
L: b43-dev@lists.infradead.org
L: kexec@lists.infradead.org
L: libertas-dev@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-afs@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-geode@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-parport@lists.infradead.org (subscribers-only)
L: linux-realtek-soc@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-um@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-unisoc@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: wcn36xx@lists.infradead.org
They are all reporting different settings and linux-mediatek and
linux-arm-kernel even inconsistently. The inconsistency and a poor attempt
to resolve that is what started this discussion.
I can then send out the patch to adjust MAINTAINERS to your ground truth
from the server.
Thanks for your support,
Lukas
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:23 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Lukas Bulwahn, Matthias Brugger, Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas,
linux-pci, linux-mediatek, Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger,
Joe Perches, kernel-janitors, linux-kernel
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:57 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
> > and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
>
> It really isn't.
>
> # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> # legal values are:
> # 0 = "Accept"
> # 1 = "Hold"
> # 2 = "Reject"
> # 3 = "Discard"
> generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
lists?
$ grep "lists.infradead.org" MAINTAINERS | sort | uniq
L: ath10k@lists.infradead.org
L: ath11k@lists.infradead.org
L: b43-dev@lists.infradead.org
L: kexec@lists.infradead.org
L: libertas-dev@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-afs@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-geode@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-parport@lists.infradead.org (subscribers-only)
L: linux-realtek-soc@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-um@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-unisoc@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: wcn36xx@lists.infradead.org
They are all reporting different settings and linux-mediatek and
linux-arm-kernel even inconsistently. The inconsistency and a poor attempt
to resolve that is what started this discussion.
I can then send out the patch to adjust MAINTAINERS to your ground truth
from the server.
Thanks for your support,
Lukas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 42+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:23 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:57 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias
> > and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.
>
> It really isn't.
>
> # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> # legal values are:
> # 0 = "Accept"
> # 1 = "Hold"
> # 2 = "Reject"
> # 3 = "Discard"
> generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
lists?
$ grep "lists.infradead.org" MAINTAINERS | sort | uniq
L: ath10k@lists.infradead.org
L: ath11k@lists.infradead.org
L: b43-dev@lists.infradead.org
L: kexec@lists.infradead.org
L: libertas-dev@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-afs@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-geode@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-parport@lists.infradead.org (subscribers-only)
L: linux-realtek-soc@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-um@lists.infradead.org
L: linux-unisoc@lists.infradead.org (moderated for non-subscribers)
L: wcn36xx@lists.infradead.org
They are all reporting different settings and linux-mediatek and
linux-arm-kernel even inconsistently. The inconsistency and a poor attempt
to resolve that is what started this discussion.
I can then send out the patch to adjust MAINTAINERS to your ground truth
from the server.
Thanks for your support,
Lukas
_______________________________________________
Linux-mediatek mailing list
Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
2020-09-14 15:23 ` Lukas Bulwahn
(?)
@ 2020-09-14 15:30 ` David Woodhouse
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Ryder Lee, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Joe Perches, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 17:23 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> > # legal values are:
> > # 0 = "Accept"
> > # 1 = "Hold"
> > # 2 = "Reject"
> > # 3 = "Discard"
> > generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
> David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
> lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
> lists?
ath10k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
ath11k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
b43-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
kexec:generic_nonmember_action = 0
libertas-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-afs:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-amlogic:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-arm-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-geode:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-i3c:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-mediatek:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-mtd:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-nvme:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-parport:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-realtek-soc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-riscv:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-rockchip:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-rpi-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-snps-arc:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-um:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-unisoc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
wcn36xx:generic_nonmember_action = 0
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:30 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Matthias Brugger, Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-pci,
linux-mediatek, Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger, Joe Perches,
kernel-janitors, linux-kernel
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 17:23 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> > # legal values are:
> > # 0 = "Accept"
> > # 1 = "Hold"
> > # 2 = "Reject"
> > # 3 = "Discard"
> > generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
> David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
> lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
> lists?
ath10k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
ath11k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
b43-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
kexec:generic_nonmember_action = 0
libertas-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-afs:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-amlogic:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-arm-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-geode:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-i3c:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-mediatek:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-mtd:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-nvme:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-parport:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-realtek-soc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-riscv:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-rockchip:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-rpi-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-snps-arc:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-um:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-unisoc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
wcn36xx:generic_nonmember_action = 0
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:30 ` David Woodhouse
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2020-09-14 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Ryder Lee, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Joe Perches, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 17:23 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> > # legal values are:
> > # 0 = "Accept"
> > # 1 = "Hold"
> > # 2 = "Reject"
> > # 3 = "Discard"
> > generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
> David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
> lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
> lists?
ath10k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
ath11k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
b43-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
kexec:generic_nonmember_action = 0
libertas-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-afs:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-amlogic:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-arm-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-geode:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-i3c:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-mediatek:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-mtd:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-nvme:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-parport:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-realtek-soc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
linux-riscv:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-rockchip:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-rpi-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-snps-arc:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-um:generic_nonmember_action = 0
linux-unisoc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
wcn36xx:generic_nonmember_action = 0
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_______________________________________________
Linux-mediatek mailing list
Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
2020-09-14 15:30 ` David Woodhouse
(?)
@ 2020-09-14 15:31 ` Lukas Bulwahn
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 17:23 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> > > # legal values are:
> > > # 0 = "Accept"
> > > # 1 = "Hold"
> > > # 2 = "Reject"
> > > # 3 = "Discard"
> > > generic_nonmember_action = 0
> >
> > David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
> > lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
> > lists?
>
> ath10k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> ath11k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> b43-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> kexec:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> libertas-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-afs:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-amlogic:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-arm-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-geode:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-i3c:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-mediatek:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-mtd:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-nvme:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-parport:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-realtek-soc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-riscv:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-rockchip:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-rpi-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-snps-arc:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-um:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-unisoc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> wcn36xx:generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
Thanks, I will provide a suitable patch for MAINTAINERS.
Lukas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 42+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:31 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Lukas Bulwahn, Matthias Brugger, Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas,
linux-pci, linux-mediatek, Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger,
Joe Perches, kernel-janitors, linux-kernel
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 17:23 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> > > # legal values are:
> > > # 0 = "Accept"
> > > # 1 = "Hold"
> > > # 2 = "Reject"
> > > # 3 = "Discard"
> > > generic_nonmember_action = 0
> >
> > David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
> > lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
> > lists?
>
> ath10k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> ath11k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> b43-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> kexec:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> libertas-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-afs:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-amlogic:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-arm-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-geode:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-i3c:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-mediatek:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-mtd:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-nvme:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-parport:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-realtek-soc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-riscv:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-rockchip:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-rpi-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-snps-arc:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-um:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-unisoc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> wcn36xx:generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
Thanks, I will provide a suitable patch for MAINTAINERS.
Lukas
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 42+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:31 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 17:23 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/config_list -o- linux-mediatek | grep -B5 ^generic_nonmember_action
> > > # legal values are:
> > > # 0 = "Accept"
> > > # 1 = "Hold"
> > > # 2 = "Reject"
> > > # 3 = "Discard"
> > > generic_nonmember_action = 0
> >
> > David, I guess if you have access to the ground truth on
> > lists.infradead.org, maybe you can dump the actual setting for all those
> > lists?
>
> ath10k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> ath11k:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> b43-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> kexec:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> libertas-dev:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-afs:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-amlogic:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-arm-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-geode:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-i3c:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-mediatek:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-mtd:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-nvme:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-parport:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-realtek-soc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> linux-riscv:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-rockchip:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-rpi-kernel:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-snps-arc:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-um:generic_nonmember_action = 0
> linux-unisoc:generic_nonmember_action = 1
> wcn36xx:generic_nonmember_action = 0
>
Thanks, I will provide a suitable patch for MAINTAINERS.
Lukas
_______________________________________________
Linux-mediatek mailing list
Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
2020-09-14 14:12 ` David Woodhouse
(?)
@ 2020-09-14 15:17 ` Lukas Bulwahn
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
> > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> > please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:17 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Lukas Bulwahn, Matthias Brugger, Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas,
linux-pci, linux-mediatek, Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger,
Joe Perches, kernel-janitors, linux-kernel
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
> > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> > please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 42+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-14 15:17 ` Lukas Bulwahn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Lukas Bulwahn @ 2020-09-14 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse
Cc: Ryder Lee, Joe Perches, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-mediatek, Matthias Brugger,
Lukas Bulwahn, Pia Eichinger
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
> > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
> > please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
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_______________________________________________
Linux-mediatek mailing list
Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
2020-09-14 14:12 ` David Woodhouse
(?)
@ 2020-09-15 8:41 ` Matthias Brugger
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Brugger @ 2020-09-15 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse, Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Ryder Lee, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Joe Perches, linux-mediatek, Bjorn Helgaas,
Pia Eichinger
On 14/09/2020 16:12, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
>>>> I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
>>>> it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
>>>> linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
>>>> quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
>>>> e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
>>>> yet permitted on the actual list.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
>>> to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
>>>
>>
>> Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
>> forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
>> that mail showed up so quickly.
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
Ok, thanks for clarification. I never bothered too much with all the
configuration option of the list. :|
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
I tried to find that in the web interface, but wasn't able to find the list.
Regards,
Matthias
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
>> Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
>> please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-15 8:41 ` Matthias Brugger
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Brugger @ 2020-09-15 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse, Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Ryder Lee, Bjorn Helgaas, linux-pci, linux-mediatek,
Ralf Ramsauer, Pia Eichinger, Joe Perches, kernel-janitors,
linux-kernel
On 14/09/2020 16:12, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
>>>> I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
>>>> it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
>>>> linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
>>>> quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
>>>> e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
>>>> yet permitted on the actual list.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
>>> to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
>>>
>>
>> Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
>> forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
>> that mail showed up so quickly.
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
Ok, thanks for clarification. I never bothered too much with all the
configuration option of the list. :|
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
I tried to find that in the web interface, but wasn't able to find the list.
Regards,
Matthias
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
>> Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
>> please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 42+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks consistent
@ 2020-09-15 8:41 ` Matthias Brugger
0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Brugger @ 2020-09-15 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse, Lukas Bulwahn
Cc: Ryder Lee, linux-pci, kernel-janitors, Ralf Ramsauer,
linux-kernel, Joe Perches, linux-mediatek, Bjorn Helgaas,
Pia Eichinger
On 14/09/2020 16:12, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
>>>> I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
>>>> it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
>>>> linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
>>>> quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
>>>> e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
>>>> yet permitted on the actual list.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
>>> to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
>>>
>>
>> Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely
>> forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why
>> that mail showed up so quickly.
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
Ok, thanks for clarification. I never bothered too much with all the
configuration option of the list. :|
>
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
I tried to find that in the web interface, but wasn't able to find the list.
Regards,
Matthias
>
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
>
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
>> Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you
>> please pick this patch?
>
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
>
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