OE/snapshots is not really for different mtn ver.

OE/snapshots is not really for different mtn ver.

[John Lee]

Hi List,

I just found out that stuffs under
http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ are not really for different
version of monotone.

Actually, 0.33 and 0.34 are both for mtn 0.32

this script:

for V in 0.29 0.30 0.31 0.32 0.33 0.34 0.35
do
../bin/mtn-${V}-linux-x86 -d OE-this-is-for-mtn-${V}.mtn heads \
-b org.openembedded.dev
done

gave me the following result:

mtn-0.29-linux-x86: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
aa44d626baaae40ee498aea453176a8aea90d9fc xora@openembedded.org 2007-07-10T23:18:21
mtn-0.30-linux-x86: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
dbb50c1216fdeb2127d4ebde03ffed987a3a5d96 coredump2@openembedded.org 2007-11-21T04:10:31
mtn-0.31-linux-x86: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
dbb50c1216fdeb2127d4ebde03ffed987a3a5d96 coredump2@openembedded.org 2007-11-21T04:10:31
mtn-0.32-linux-x86: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
dbb50c1216fdeb2127d4ebde03ffed987a3a5d96 coredump2@openembedded.org 2007-11-21T04:10:31
mtn-0.33-linux-x86: misuse: database /home/downloads/mtn/db/OE-this-is-for-mtn-0.33.mtn is laid out according to an old schema
mtn-0.33-linux-x86: misuse: try 'mtn-0.33-linux-x86 db migrate' to upgrade
mtn-0.33-linux-x86: misuse: (this is irreversible; you may want to make a backup copy first)
mtn-0.34-linux-x86: misuse: database /home/downloads/mtn/db/OE-this-is-for-mtn-0.34.mtn is laid out according to an old schema
mtn-0.34-linux-x86: misuse: try 'mtn-0.34-linux-x86 db migrate' to upgrade
mtn-0.34-linux-x86: misuse: (this is irreversible; you may want to make a backup copy first)
mtn-0.35-linux-x86: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
dbb50c1216fdeb2127d4ebde03ffed987a3a5d96 coredump2@openembedded.org 2007-11-21T04:10:31

I don't have mtn 0.36 and 0.37 on that machine so I didn't check the
rest.

Regards,
John

Re: OE/snapshots is not really for different mtn ver.

[Leon Woestenberg]

Hello,

On Nov 29, 2007 6:21 PM, John Lee <john_lee@openmoko.com> wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> I just found out that stuffs under
> http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ are not really for different
> version of monotone.
>
There seem to be some softlinks AFAICT.

Another minor issue with that is that the md5 files specify a filename
that does not match.

Regards,
-- 
Leon

Re: OE/snapshots is not really for different mtn ver.

[Koen Kooi]

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John Lee schreef:
> Hi List,
> 
> I just found out that stuffs under
> http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ are not really for different
> version of monotone.
> 
> Actually, 0.33 and 0.34 are both for mtn 0.32

And the 0.32 snapshot should work with the 0.31, 0.32 and 0.33 monotone
versions. Only monotone version 0.30, 0.32 and 0.34 introduced changes
in database layout (the 0.30 and 0.32 being intrusive, the 0.34 one only
takes a few  seconds). The symlinks were added to stop freaking out
users that didn't bother to read the UPGRADE file on monotone.ca and to
save Rod from adding a shitload of logic to the makefiles.

The 0.34 symlink error has been correct, thanks for spotting that! I'm
not sure why the 0.33 one fails, though. They are now being generated by
their own mtn binaries, so the problems should have been solved now, at
the expense of some diskspace.


- --
koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl will go go away in december 2007, please
use k.kooi@student.utwente.nl instead.

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Re: OE/snapshots is not really for different mtn ver.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-11-29, Koen Kooi <k.kooi@student.utwente.nl> wrote:
>
> John Lee schreef:
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I just found out that stuffs under
>> http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ are not really for different
>> version of monotone.
>> 
>> Actually, 0.33 and 0.34 are both for mtn 0.32
>
> And the 0.32 snapshot should work with the 0.31, 0.32 and 0.33 monotone
> versions. Only monotone version 0.30, 0.32 and 0.34 introduced changes
> in database layout (the 0.30 and 0.32 being intrusive, the 0.34 one only
> takes a few  seconds). The symlinks were added to stop freaking out
> users that didn't bother to read the UPGRADE file on monotone.ca and to
> save Rod from adding a shitload of logic to the makefiles.
>
> The 0.34 symlink error has been correct, thanks for spotting that! I'm
> not sure why the 0.33 one fails, though. They are now being generated by
> their own mtn binaries, so the problems should have been solved now, at
> the expense of some diskspace.

Neither 0.35 nor 0.36 bz2 files will unpack (they're corrupted).
The 0.35 file fails md5 checksum, and the 36 md5 file has the
filename for the 0.35 version.  Things appear to be thouroughly
hosed up.  I can't seem to get an un-bzippable snapshot for any
version of monotone that I can install.

Where can one get a good snapshot?

-- 
Grant Edwards
grante@visi.com

Re: OE/snapshots is not really for different mtn ver.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-11-30, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
> On 2007-11-29, Koen Kooi <k.kooi@student.utwente.nl> wrote:
>>
>> John Lee schreef:
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I just found out that stuffs under
>>> http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ are not really for different
>>> version of monotone.
>>> 
>>> Actually, 0.33 and 0.34 are both for mtn 0.32
>>
>> And the 0.32 snapshot should work with the 0.31, 0.32 and 0.33 monotone
>> versions. Only monotone version 0.30, 0.32 and 0.34 introduced changes
>> in database layout (the 0.30 and 0.32 being intrusive, the 0.34 one only
>> takes a few  seconds). The symlinks were added to stop freaking out
>> users that didn't bother to read the UPGRADE file on monotone.ca and to
>> save Rod from adding a shitload of logic to the makefiles.
>>
>> The 0.34 symlink error has been correct, thanks for spotting that! I'm
>> not sure why the 0.33 one fails, though. They are now being generated by
>> their own mtn binaries, so the problems should have been solved now, at
>> the expense of some diskspace.
>
> Neither 0.35 nor 0.36 bz2 files will unpack (they're corrupted).
> The 0.35 file fails md5 checksum, and the 36 md5 file has the
> filename for the 0.35 version.  Things appear to be thouroughly
> hosed up.  I can't seem to get an un-bzippable snapshot for any
> version of monotone that I can install.
>
> Where can one get a good snapshot?

I went back to the 0.29 bz2 file and that one wasn't corrupted.
All the files "newer" than that were broken.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! I'm ANN LANDERS!!
                                  at               I can SHOPLIFT!!
                               visi.com            

Firewall blocking access to monotone server?

[Tiller, Jason]

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Hello, OE folx!

I approached the list a couple of weeks ago asking about running OE under Cygwin.  The overwhelming consensus was that I shouldn't even embark on that headache-laden path and instead scare up a Linux box for my OE work.  Well, I took your considered advice and now I'm trying to get OE running.

I'm running on a 400MHz P-III with 256MB of memory running RHEL 4.  The OS is mandated by my IT guys.  I got everything down, finally got everything built (well, so far), including git, svn, mtn, boost, (1.33.1), bb, and a whole host of other packages.  My poor little box has been compiling its little brains out.  I think I have everything in place.

I read the tutorial and got stuck at the actual retrieval of the mtn database.  I downloaded the mtn 0.36 OE snapshot, but when I try to do the first "mtn pull" against monotone.openembedded.org, the connection hangs.  It also hangs against the other servers that have been mentioned.  I think this is due to our company's draconian firewall policy.

If I were to go to my IT guys and ask them (nicely) to help me out, what do I need to tell them in terms of the port/protocol issues?  I'll need to convince them that this is a safe proposition, but I'm sure exactly what I'm asking for.

Thanks in advance.  I *really* want to give this a try since WindRiver quoted me $60k+ for a WRLinux distro/tools/support, just for the first year.  Geez, I'm the *only* programmer at my site - there's no way my boss will fork over that kind of money.  So, I may end up having to roll my own.

Wish me luck!

---Jason

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Re: Firewall blocking access to monotone server?

[Hans Henry von Tresckow]

On Nov 29, 2007 9:41 PM, Tiller, Jason <jtiller@sjm.com> wrote:

> Hello, OE folx!
>
> I approached the list a couple of weeks ago asking about running OE under
> Cygwin.  The overwhelming consensus was that I shouldn't even embark on that
> headache-laden path and instead scare up a Linux box for my OE work.  Well,
> I took your considered advice and now I'm trying to get OE running.
>
> I'm running on a 400MHz P-III with 256MB of memory running RHEL 4.  The OS
> is mandated by my IT guys.  I got everything down, finally got everything
> built (well, so far), including git, svn, mtn, boost, (1.33.1), bb, and a
> whole host of other packages.  My poor little box has been compiling its
> little brains out.  I think I have everything in place.


From my experince, you might want to ask your IT guys for something a bit
more powerful. I used to use an old HP Kajak for my builds, but the dual
PII-333 and 512Mb of memory was barely adequate. It took ~24hrs to build a
console image from scratch....
At the very least, you should try to max out the memory in the system, and
if possible add a second CPU to take advantage of bitbakes parallel build
capabilites.

I am now running on a dual core laptop with 2G... and am much happier :)


-- 
Henry von Tresckow (hvontres)

Re: Firewall blocking access to monotone server?

[Florian Boor]

Hi,

Tiller, Jason schrieb:
> I'm running on a 400MHz P-III with 256MB of memory running RHEL 4.  The OS is
> mandated by my IT guys.  I got everything down, finally got everything built
> (well, so far), including git, svn, mtn, boost, (1.33.1), bb, and a whole
> host of other packages.  My poor little box has been compiling its little
> brains out.  I think I have everything in place.

Oh dear... RHEL4 is quite common, but compiling on this hardware will be a major
pain. I could donate an faster PC to your company if you like ;-)

> If I were to go to my IT guys and ask them (nicely) to help me out, what do I
> need to tell them in terms of the port/protocol issues?  I'll need to
> convince them that this is a safe proposition, but I'm sure exactly what I'm
> asking for.

Well since that's an outgoing connection on a single, defined port there is
really not much risk in opening it. If they are really crazy and do not want to
allow external connections they could provide a SOCKS proxy you could use with
tsocks.

Greetings

Florian


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Re: Firewall blocking access to monotone server?

[Robert Schuster]

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Hi,
regarding your firewall issue. Once upon a time port 4691 was blocked on
my internet connection, too (I am connected through a community-operated
public wireless meshnetwork called Freifunk).

Thanksfully I have SSH access to a box ('peking') at my university.
First I created a SSH tunnel:

   ssh -L4691:org.openembedded.dev:4691 peking -N

and then led all traffic go to through it:

  mtn --db OE.mtn pull localhost org.openembedded.dev

Worked like a charm. :)

If outgoing ssh is blocked by the companies' firewall you should ask
them to open it though.

Regards
Robert


Tiller, Jason schrieb:
> Hello, OE folx!
> 
> I approached the list a couple of weeks ago asking about running OE under Cygwin.  The overwhelming consensus was that I shouldn't even embark on that headache-laden path and instead scare up a Linux box for my OE work.  Well, I took your considered advice and now I'm trying to get OE running.
> 
> I'm running on a 400MHz P-III with 256MB of memory running RHEL 4.  The OS is mandated by my IT guys.  I got everything down, finally got everything built (well, so far), including git, svn, mtn, boost, (1.33.1), bb, and a whole host of other packages.  My poor little box has been compiling its little brains out.  I think I have everything in place.
> 
> I read the tutorial and got stuck at the actual retrieval of the mtn database.  I downloaded the mtn 0.36 OE snapshot, but when I try to do the first "mtn pull" against monotone.openembedded.org, the connection hangs.  It also hangs against the other servers that have been mentioned.  I think this is due to our company's draconian firewall policy.
> 
> If I were to go to my IT guys and ask them (nicely) to help me out, what do I need to tell them in terms of the port/protocol issues?  I'll need to convince them that this is a safe proposition, but I'm sure exactly what I'm asking for.
> 
> Thanks in advance.  I *really* want to give this a try since WindRiver quoted me $60k+ for a WRLinux distro/tools/support, just for the first year.  Geez, I'm the *only* programmer at my site - there's no way my boss will fork over that kind of money.  So, I may end up having to roll my own.
> 
> Wish me luck!
> 
> ---Jason
> 
> 
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Re: Firewall blocking access to monotone server?

[Cliff Brake]

On Nov 30, 2007 12:41 AM, Tiller, Jason <jtiller@sjm.com> wrote:
> Hello, OE folx!
>
> I approached the list a couple of weeks ago asking about running OE under Cygwin.  The overwhelming consensus was that I shouldn't even embark on that headache-laden path and instead scare up a Linux box for my OE work.  Well, I took your considered advice and now I'm trying to get OE running.
>
> I'm running on a 400MHz P-III with 256MB of memory running RHEL 4.  The OS is mandated by my IT guys.  I got everything down, finally got everything built (well, so far), including git, svn, mtn, boost, (1.33.1), bb, and a whole host of other packages.  My poor little box has been compiling its little brains out.  I think I have everything in place.
>
> I read the tutorial and got stuck at the actual retrieval of the mtn database.  I downloaded the mtn 0.36 OE snapshot, but when I try to do the first "mtn pull" against monotone.openembedded.org, the connection hangs.  It also hangs against the other servers that have been mentioned.  I think this is due to our company's draconian firewall policy.

Another option would be to set up a build system outside your
organization and access it using SSH.  You can do all your builds
externally, and use scp to copy the images back to wherever you are
working.  For example, if you have high speed internet access at your
home, it is trivial to put a Linux box on the internet and access it
remotely.  This will allow how to set it up however you want.

I often do this when I'm working on-site with customers and am doing
builds on my workstation back at the office.

Cliff

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