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From: Shannon McMackin <smcmackin@gmail.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: tuxonice-devel@lists.tuxonice.net
Subject: Re: [TuxOnIce-devel] [RFC] TuxOnIce
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 21:17:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gu017d$g2s$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905080037.19722@centrum.cz>

trekker.dk@centrum.cz wrote:
> Well...
> 
>>
>> To summarise disadvantages:
>>
>> - only core has 8000 LoC
>> - it does stuff that can be easily done in userspace
>>     (and that todays distros _do_ in userspace).
>> - it duplicates uswsusp functionality.
>> - compared to [u]swsusp, it received little testing
>>
> 
> To summarise advatages - for me tuxonice is the only hibernation method that works.
> (Till now I've had 3 machines - no one of them able to resume with in-kernel swsusp.)
> 
> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> TuxOnIce-devel mailing list
>> TuxOnIce-devel@lists.tuxonice.net
>> http://lists.tuxonice.net/mailman/listinfo/tuxonice-devel
>>
> 
Just to add my 2 cents as a user of TOI.  Every distro and release I've 
tried has one major issue with kernel hibernation.  Upon resume when 
hibernating large images, there's a residual footprint in swap.  Every 
further hibernation creates a larger footprint, to the order of an 
additional 5-7% each time.  Nobody has ever cared in any forum to 
explain why or how I might change that.

TOI does not do this and that's why I've been using it on every distro I 
  can for the past 4 or 5 years.  I for one would love to see TOI 
capability added to the mainline to improve functionality and 
performance. If we can't get all 3 maintained, then 2 that are better 
would seem to suffice...


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-08  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 281+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-06 14:38 [RFC] TuxOnIce Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 1/19] TuxOnIce: Documentation Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-16 20:10   ` Vegard Nossum
2009-05-16 22:18     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-16 22:18     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-16 20:10   ` Vegard Nossum
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 2/19] TuxOnIce: GEMS support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 3/19] TuxOnIce: Make drop_pagecache non-static and declared in mm.h Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 4/19] TuxOnIce: Add support for just thawing kernel threads Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 5/19] TuxOnIce: Create means of determining how many pages can be allocated Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 6/19] TuxOnIce: Make functions and variables shared with swsusp non-static Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 7/19] TuxOnIce: Modify swsusp bitmaps to allow modification during scanning Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 8/19] TuxOnIce: Add core TuxOnIce code Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 9/19] TuxOnIce: Netlink support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 21:03   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 21:35     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07  4:34       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-07  4:34       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 21:35     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 21:03   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 10/19] TuxOnIce: Storage manager support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 11/19] TuxOnIce: Block I/O engine Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 12/19] TuxOnIce: Compression support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 13/19] TuxOnIce: File allocator Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 14/19] TuxOnIce: Swap support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 15/19] TuxOnIce: Userspace user interface support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 16/19] TuxOnIce: Warn user if an initrd doesn't include an attempt at resuming Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 17/19] TuxOnIce: Support for replacing swsusp Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 18/19] TuxOnIce: Provide a means of determining the freezer state Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 19/19] TuxOnIce: Don't try to wake kswapd if the freezer is on Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:09 ` [RFC] TuxOnIce Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 15:28   ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 15:28   ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:05     ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:05     ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-09  9:10       ` Stefan Richter
2009-05-09  9:10       ` Stefan Richter
2009-05-10  5:37       ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-10  5:37       ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-10  5:37     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-10  5:37     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 16:54   ` Sunil Kumar
2009-05-07 16:55   ` U Kuehn
2009-05-07 16:55   ` U Kuehn
2009-05-07 16:55   ` U Kuehn
2009-05-07 17:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 17:49       ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 18:54         ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 18:54         ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 18:57           ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 18:57           ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:49       ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:52       ` Matt Price
2009-05-07 17:52       ` Matt Price
2009-05-07 18:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 18:57           ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 18:57           ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 19:27             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 19:27             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:41               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:14                 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-07 23:32                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:43                     ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08  0:13                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08  0:13                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08  0:39                         ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08  0:39                         ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08  0:49                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08  0:49                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08  0:39                         ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08  0:18                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08  0:18                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 23:43                     ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-07 23:32                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:14                 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-07 20:41               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 21:46             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08  7:11               ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-08  7:11               ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 21:46             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 18:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 17:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:42     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 21:42     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08  0:11     ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-08  0:11     ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-07 17:42   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:37     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 20:37     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 21:51     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08  1:34       ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08  1:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 14:11         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 21:52           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 21:52           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 22:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 22:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 23:30               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:43                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 23:43                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 10:05                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 10:05                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:43                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 12:43                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:15                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 13:15                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:43                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 21:43                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2009-05-25 22:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26  0:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:27                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27  0:02                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27 18:26                                 ` Len Brown
2009-05-27 18:26                                 ` [linux-pm] " Len Brown
2009-05-27  0:02                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:27                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 22:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 22:45                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 22:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 22:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 23:13                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-27 14:38                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-27 14:38                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-25 23:13                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26  0:42                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:42                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  9:19                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26  9:19                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 11:07                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 11:07                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 21:33                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:56                                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-05-26 22:24                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 22:24                                   ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-05-27  0:00                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27  0:00                                     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 23:59                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 23:59                                   ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:56                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-26 21:33                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:36                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 21:36                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 21:29                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:29                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:51                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 23:10                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 23:10                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 22:51                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26  0:42                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:42                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:45                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-08 23:44                 ` Ray Lee
2009-05-08 23:44                 ` Ray Lee
2009-05-27 19:10                   ` Len Brown
2009-05-27 23:43                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27 23:43                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27 19:10                   ` Len Brown
2009-05-27 19:10                   ` Len Brown
2009-05-09 13:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25  9:53                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26  0:19                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:19                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:37                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 22:37                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27  0:06                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27  0:06                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-28 11:50                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-28 11:50                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25  9:53                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 23:30               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:27               ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 13:27               ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 19:32                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-09 22:22                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 22:22                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-14  9:16                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-16 23:11                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-16 23:11                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-14  9:16                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 19:32                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-09 13:03           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 13:03           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 14:11         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 19:44         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 21:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 21:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 22:37             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 22:37             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 21:59           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 21:59           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:05             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 23:05             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 23:15               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25  9:27                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25  9:27                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:32                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 12:32                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:22                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 13:26                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 21:50                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:50                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 13:26                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:22                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 21:39                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:29                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 22:29                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26  0:28                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:28                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:35                           ` david
2009-05-26  0:35                             ` david
2009-05-26  0:47                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:47                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  8:43                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26  8:43                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 10:56                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 10:56                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 21:39                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 23:15               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 11:12             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-09 11:12             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-08 19:44         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-07 21:51     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 17:42   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:37   ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " trekker.dk
2009-05-08  1:17     ` Shannon McMackin [this message]
2009-05-08 21:47       ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-10  5:38       ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 20:10         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-05-10  5:38     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-10  5:38     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 21:19       ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 21:23         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 21:23         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 20:19           ` trekker.dk
2009-05-13 20:19           ` trekker.dk
2009-05-13 20:24             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 20:24             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 22:07               ` trekker.dk
2009-05-13 22:07               ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 23:23         ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-11 23:23         ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-11 21:19       ` trekker.dk
2009-05-07 22:37   ` trekker.dk
2009-05-07 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-16 19:07 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-16 19:07 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-17  2:53   ` Matt Price
2009-05-17  2:53   ` Matt Price
2009-05-17  3:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-17  3:24       ` Matt Price
2009-05-17  3:24       ` Matt Price
2009-05-17  3:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-17  3:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-17  3:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-17  5:02   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-17  5:02   ` Nigel Cunningham

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