UserVoice for feature/enhancement requests rather than bugzilla?

UserVoice for feature/enhancement requests rather than bugzilla?

[Chris Larson]

I set up http://openembedded.uservoice.com/ ages ago, when I first
heard about uservoice, when it was beta.  The interface is much nicer
than bugzilla for users to request features, and has a nice easy
voting mechanism to determine what users find to be the most important
features.  I think we should play around with it, and see if it's
worth using for that purpose.  I think it is, personally.  Leon
Woestenberg just had a bitbake feature request, which brought this to
mind.
-- 
Chris Larson
clarson at kergoth dot com
clarson at mvista dot com
Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
Maintainer - Tslib
Software Engineer
MontaVista Software, Inc.

Re: UserVoice for feature/enhancement requests rather than bugzilla?

[Rolf Leggewie]

Chris Larson wrote:
> I set up http://openembedded.uservoice.com/ ages ago


Hi,

I'm kind of wary of tool profileration, especially if it means we are 
not masters of our own data anymore.  I also never understood what kind 
of problems people were having with bugzilla.  I've directly asked a few 
people and there was basically only one lesson learned; those who 
complain don't know about the features that bugzilla offers.

Let me know where you think bugzilla in general and the way we use it in 
OE in particular falls short and I will either point out the button 
you've missed so far or work on a fix ;-)  Seriously!

OE as a community has a tendency of "Let's throw a new tool at it and 
everything will be pie".  Will we ever learn that is not the case?

Regards

Rolf

Re: UserVoice for feature/enhancement requests rather than bugzilla?

[Chris Larson]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Rolf
Leggewie<no2spam@nospam.arcornews.de> wrote:
> Chris Larson wrote:
>>
>> I set up http://openembedded.uservoice.com/ ages ago
>
> I'm kind of wary of tool profileration, especially if it means we are not
> masters of our own data anymore.  I also never understood what kind of
> problems people were having with bugzilla.  I've directly asked a few people
> and there was basically only one lesson learned; those who complain don't
> know about the features that bugzilla offers.
>
> Let me know where you think bugzilla in general and the way we use it in OE
> in particular falls short and I will either point out the button you've
> missed so far or work on a fix ;-)  Seriously!
>
> OE as a community has a tendency of "Let's throw a new tool at it and
> everything will be pie".  Will we ever learn that is not the case?

Bugzilla is lovely for tracking *bugs*.  Just as with wikis, it's
often overloaded for things it's not at all good for.
-- 
Chris Larson
clarson at kergoth dot com
clarson at mvista dot com
Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
Maintainer - Tslib
Software Engineer
MontaVista Software, Inc.

Re: UserVoice for feature/enhancement requests rather than bugzilla?

[Rolf Leggewie]

Chris Larson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Rolf
> Leggewie<no2spam@nospam.arcornews.de> wrote:
>> OE as a community has a tendency of "Let's throw a new tool at it and
>> everything will be pie".  Will we ever learn that is not the case?

That being said, I thought http://bugseverywhere.org which I stumbled 
across today sounded like an interesting concept.

> Bugzilla is lovely for tracking *bugs*.  Just as with wikis, it's
> often overloaded for things it's not at all good for.

Well, it was you who you managed to throw bugzilla into the discussion 
;-)  And it was you who failed to somehow explain the void and how 
uservoice is the best tool to fill that void.

I guess, what I'm trying to say is, please elaborate and advocate a bit.

Re: UserVoice for feature/enhancement requests rather than bugzilla?

[Chris Larson]

I'm not going to advocate for something I've used for all of 10
minutes.  I proposed that it was something we should look at and
determine if it's worth using.  I'd suggest you re-read the initial
mail that started this thread, as clearly you failed to grasp it the
first time around.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Rolf
Leggewie<no2spam@nospam.arcornews.de> wrote:
> Chris Larson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Rolf
>> Leggewie<no2spam@nospam.arcornews.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> OE as a community has a tendency of "Let's throw a new tool at it and
>>> everything will be pie".  Will we ever learn that is not the case?
>
> That being said, I thought http://bugseverywhere.org which I stumbled across
> today sounded like an interesting concept.
>
>> Bugzilla is lovely for tracking *bugs*.  Just as with wikis, it's
>> often overloaded for things it's not at all good for.
>
> Well, it was you who you managed to throw bugzilla into the discussion ;-)
>  And it was you who failed to somehow explain the void and how uservoice is
> the best tool to fill that void.
>
> I guess, what I'm trying to say is, please elaborate and advocate a bit.
>
>
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-- 
Chris Larson
clarson at kergoth dot com
clarson at mvista dot com
Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
Maintainer - Tslib
Software Engineer
MontaVista Software, Inc.