From: David Brown <david@westcontrol.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What's the typical RAID10 setup?
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:01:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ii8lcv$3jg$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110131225235.GA11775@www2.open-std.org>
On 31/01/2011 23:52, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> raid1+0 and Linux MD raid10 are similar, but significantly different
> in a number of ways. Linux MD raid10 can run on only 2 drives.
> Linux raid10,f2 has almost RAID0 striping performance in sequential read.
> You can have an odd number of drives in raid10.
> And you can have as many copies as you like in raid10,
>
You can make raid10,f2 functionality from raid1+0 by using partitions.
For example, to get a raid10,f2 equivalent on two drives, partition them
into equal halves. Then make md0 a raid1 mirror of sda1 and sdb2, and
md1 a raid1 mirror of sdb1 and sda2. Finally, make md2 a raid0 stripe
set of md0 and md1.
If you have three disks, you can do that too:
md0 = raid1(sda1, sdb2)
md1 = raid1(sdb1, sdc2)
md2 = raid1(sdc1, sda2)
md3 = raid0(md0, md1, md2)
As far as I can figure out, the performance should be pretty much the
same (although wrapping everything in a single raid10,f2 is more
convenient).
For four disks, there are more ways to do it:
Option A:
md0 = raid1(sda1, sdb2)
md1 = raid1(sdb1, sdc2)
md2 = raid1(sdc1, sdd2)
md3 = raid1(sdd1, sda2)
md4 = raid0(md0, md1, md2, md3)
Option B:
md0 = raid1(sda1, sdb2)
md1 = raid1(sdb1, sda2)
md2 = raid1(sdc1, sdd2)
md3 = raid1(sdd1, sdc2)
md4 = raid0(md0, md1, md2, md3)
Option C:
md0 = raid1(sda1, sdc2)
md1 = raid1(sdb1, sdd2)
md2 = raid1(sdc1, sda2)
md3 = raid1(sdd1, sdb2)
md4 = raid0(md0, md1, md2, md3)
"Ordinary" raid 1 + 0 is roughly like this:
md0 = raid1(sda1, sdb1)
md1 = raid1(sda2, sdb2)
md2 = raid1(sdc1, sdc1)
md3 = raid1(sdc2, sdd2)
md4 = raid0(md0, md1, md2, md3)
I don't know which of A, B or C is used for raid10,f2 on four disks -
maybe Neil knows?
The fun thing here is to try to figure out the performance for these
combinations. For large reads, A, B and C will give you much better
performance than raid 1 + 0, since you can stream data off all disks in
parallel. For most other accesses, I think the performance will be
fairly similar, except for medium write sizes (covering between a
quarter and half a stripe), which will be faster with C since all four
disks can write in parallel.
All four arrangements support any single disk failing, and B, C and
raid1+0 have a 66% chance of supporting a second failure.
I don't think there is any way you can get the equivalent of raid10,o2
in this way. But then, I am not sure how much use raid10,o2 actually is
- are there any usage patterns for which it is faster than raid10,n2 or
raid10,f2?
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2011-01-31 9:41 What's the typical RAID10 setup? Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 10:14 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 10:22 ` Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 10:36 ` CoolCold
2011-01-31 15:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:21 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 15:27 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:28 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:32 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:34 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:37 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:45 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 16:55 ` Denis
2011-01-31 17:31 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 18:35 ` Denis
2011-01-31 19:15 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:28 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 19:35 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:37 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 20:22 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 20:17 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-31 20:37 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 21:20 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 21:24 ` Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 21:27 ` Jon Nelson
2011-01-31 21:47 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 21:51 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:50 ` NeilBrown
2011-01-31 22:53 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 23:10 ` NeilBrown
2011-01-31 23:14 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:52 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 23:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 10:01 ` David Brown [this message]
2011-02-01 13:50 ` Jon Nelson
2011-02-01 14:25 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 14:48 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 15:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:36 ` Drew
2011-02-03 8:18 ` Stan Hoeppner
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2011-02-03 14:35 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:43 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 15:50 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:54 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 16:02 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 16:07 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 16:16 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 22:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-01 23:12 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 9:25 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-02 16:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:06 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:07 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:10 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 19:44 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-02 20:28 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 21:31 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 22:13 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-02 22:26 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 1:57 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-03 3:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:17 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 23:35 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 16:02 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 16:24 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 17:56 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 18:09 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 20:16 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 20:32 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 20:58 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 21:04 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 21:18 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 0:58 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-01 12:50 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-02-03 11:04 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 14:17 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:54 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 18:39 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 18:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 23:43 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 3:49 ` hansbkk
2011-02-04 7:06 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 8:27 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 9:06 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 10:04 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 11:15 ` hansbkk
2011-02-04 13:33 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 20:35 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 20:42 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 21:15 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 22:05 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 23:03 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-06 3:59 ` Drew
2011-02-06 4:27 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 11:34 ` David Brown
2011-02-04 13:53 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 14:17 ` David Brown
2011-02-04 14:21 ` hansbkk
2011-02-06 4:02 ` Drew
2011-02-06 7:58 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-06 12:03 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-02-06 14:30 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 8:46 ` hansbkk
2011-01-31 19:37 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 19:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:46 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 19:53 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:10 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 22:14 ` Denis
2011-01-31 22:33 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:36 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 20:23 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-31 21:59 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 22:08 ` Jon Nelson
2011-01-31 22:38 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-01 10:05 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 9:20 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-04 16:03 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-04 16:22 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-04 20:35 ` [OT] " Phil Turmel
2011-02-04 20:35 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-04 21:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 21:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:30 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 20:07 ` Stan Hoeppner
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