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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Erik A. Hendriks" <hendriks@lanl.gov>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86 ELF bootable kernels/Linux booting Linux/LinuxBIOS
Date: 01 Feb 2002 08:42:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1hep19pje.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1elk7d37d.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <3C586355.A396525B@zip.com.au> <m1zo2vb5rt.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <3C58B078.3070803@zytor.com> <m1vgdjb0x0.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <3C58CAE0.4040102@zytor.com> <20020131103516.I26855@lanl.gov> <m1elk6t7no.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <3C59DB56.2070004@zytor.com> <m1r8o5a80f.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <3C5A5F25.3090101@zytor.com>
In-Reply-To: <3C5A5F25.3090101@zytor.com>

"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:

> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> > a) More complex.  Just barely.  b) Yep.
> > c) Yep.
> > d) More flexible and can handle what ever it needs to do tomorrow,
> >    without mods. All firmware has it's own different format.  With LinuxBIOS
> > things are
> > simple enough that you can add a make target instead of having to
> > write a specific bootloader to support it.
> >
> 
> 
> I cannot agree with you on (d).  In fact, you have already brushed off a
> multiple of issues I have raised, such as interactivity.

What is magic about interactivity?  What makes this a different
problem?  We approach booting from totally different perspectives,
which makes communicating clearly hard.  

If you spell out individual problems I will show you how I would solve
them.

I believe I have done my due diligence and provided appropriate
channels for everything, but I'm willing to test it.

> I don't particularly care if you want to make this the LinuxBIOS
> platform-specific whatever, but when you start talking about making it the grand
> universal thing, you have me seriously concerned.

Hey it isn't wrong to dream of world domination :)

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-01 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-30 19:54 [RFC] x86 ELF bootable kernels/Linux booting Linux/LinuxBIOS Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-30 21:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-30 23:52   ` Keith Owens
2002-01-31  2:42   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31  2:48     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31  4:27       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31  4:41         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31  5:15           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31  5:59             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]               ` <m1n0yvaucy.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
2002-01-31 17:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31 22:34                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 22:52                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01  7:52                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 17:35           ` Erik A. Hendriks
2002-01-31 23:36             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01  0:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01  9:03                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01  9:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 15:42                     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-02-01 18:26                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-02 16:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-02 21:06                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-02 23:02                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-03  1:56                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 18:43                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-03 19:39                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 22:18                                     ` Rob Landley
2002-02-03 22:24                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 22:59                                         ` Rob Landley
2002-02-03 23:01                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 23:47                                             ` Rob Landley
2002-02-04  1:34                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04  9:53                                             ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-04 16:19                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 19:55                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 20:51                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 20:40                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 19:48                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 20:16                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04  4:29                                   ` Keith Owens
2002-02-04 20:01                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 12:49                         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-02-04 16:26                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 19:45                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 21:02                             ` Werner Almesberger
2002-02-04 21:08                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-05  7:45                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01  0:46               ` Keith Owens
2002-01-31  3:03     ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01  7:22       ` Greg KH
2002-01-30 21:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31  2:31   ` Eric W. Biederman

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