From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86 ELF bootable kernels/Linux booting Linux/LinuxBIOS
Date: 04 Feb 2002 13:01:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1k7tt6mp7.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18006.1012796941@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <18006.1012796941@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>
Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au> writes:
> On 03 Feb 2002 11:43:08 -0700,
> ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote:
> >O.k. I have been thinking about this some more, and I have come up with a
> couple
>
> >alternate of solutions....
> >My final and favorite is to take an ELF image, define a couple of ELF
> >note types, and add a bunch those notes saying which pieces are
> >hardware dependent. So a smart ELF loader can prune the image as it
> >is loaded, and a stupid one will just attempt to load everything. And
> >with the setup for this not being bootloader specific it will probably
> >encourage device pruning loaders.
>
> That is not an ELF loader, it is an ELF *linker*. The vmlinux image
> has had all the relocations fixed up, you no longer have the data
> required to discard sections. To prune hardware dependent pieces means
> moving data around and adjusting relocation entries. you have to go
> back one stage, to the individual objects, and that means linking.
Not if what you are actually pruning is your cpio archive of modules
that will become your initramfs. I admit insmod then needs to run to
insert those modules.
> Seems like an awful lot of work.
It may actually be, on the setup side. But any solution that is
setup to run on all x86 platforms is a lot of work. On the bootloader
side adding a file a initramfs is the same complexity as removing one.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-04 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-30 19:54 [RFC] x86 ELF bootable kernels/Linux booting Linux/LinuxBIOS Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-30 21:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-30 23:52 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-31 2:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 2:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31 4:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 4:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31 5:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 5:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <m1n0yvaucy.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
2002-01-31 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31 22:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 22:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 7:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-31 17:35 ` Erik A. Hendriks
2002-01-31 23:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01 0:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 9:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01 9:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01 18:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-02 16:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-02 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-02 23:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-03 1:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 18:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-03 19:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 22:18 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-03 22:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 22:59 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-03 23:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 23:47 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-04 1:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 9:53 ` Marco Colombo
2002-02-04 16:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 19:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 20:51 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-04 20:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-03 19:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 20:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 4:29 ` Keith Owens
2002-02-04 20:01 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-02-04 12:49 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-02-04 16:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-04 19:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-04 21:02 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-02-04 21:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-05 7:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-01 0:46 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-31 3:03 ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01 7:22 ` Greg KH
2002-01-30 21:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-31 2:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
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