From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
chris.mason@oracle.com, david@fromorbit.com, hch@infradead.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com,
richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, damien.wyart@free.fr,
Alex Chiang <achiang@hp.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@aristanetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v8
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:23:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1octdw8sv.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090528092803.GE29199@duck.suse.cz> (Jan Kara's message of "Thu\, 28 May 2009 11\:28\:04 +0200")
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:
> On Wed 27-05-09 20:49:59, Theodore Tso wrote:
>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:45:43PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> >
>> > This one has been tested good, where good means that it boots and
>> > functions normally at least. Whether it fixes your issue, that would be
>> > interesting to know :-)
>> >
>>
>> Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have. Here's a dmesg with the
>> softlockup report and the sysrq-t output. Unfortunately the dmesg
>> file is too big for LKML, so I've compressed it so you can get the
>> whole thing.
> Everybody waits for sys_sync() to complete and they never seem to be
> woken up. Jens, wb_work_complete() seems a bit fishy - who does
> wb_clear_work() in sync_mode == WB_SYNC_ALL which is on stack?
>
>> There's also a lockdep warning which fsx triggered.
> The lockdep warning is definitely unrelated. It's really a possible
> deadlock, although not quite probable. IMHO the problem is that
> sysfs_mutex gets above mmap_sem due to code in sysfs_readdir which calls
> filldir() which may cause page fault. At the same time it gets quite low
> on the lock stack because filesystems call sysfs functions from their
> internal functions (in this case ext4_put_super) holding quite some locks.
> Adding a few CC's for this.
Interesting.
I thought the network stack was the only piece of code silly enough
to hold locks while deleting sysfs files.
Holding any lock while deleting a objects from sysfs, sysctl or proc,
is asking for serious mischief, and unfixable from the fs side.
The usual problem is that lockdep doesn't yet understand
sysfs_deactivate which waits for any running sysfs operations to
complete before it deletes the sysfs files.
Which means any lock you hold in a show or store method is can deadlock
with any lock you hold while deleting from sysfs.
ext4 appears lock loose and fancy free in it's show and store methods
so it might be ok except for this issue of mmap_sem vs sysfs_mutex.
But apparently even that isn't enough to git rid of the requirement
to not hold locks when deleting objects.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-28 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-27 9:41 [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v8 Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 01/11] ntfs: remove old debug check for dirty data in ntfs_put_super() Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] btrfs: properly register fs backing device Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] writeback: move dirty inodes from super_block to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 04/11] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-27 11:24 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 15:14 ` Jan Kara
2009-05-27 17:50 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 05/11] writeback: get rid of pdflush completely Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 06/11] writeback: separate the flushing state/task from the bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 07/11] writeback: support > 1 flusher thread per bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 9:27 ` Jan Kara
2009-05-28 10:40 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 12:43 ` Jan Kara
2009-05-28 12:53 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 13:58 ` Jan Kara
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 08/11] writeback: allow sleepy exit of default writeback task Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 09/11] writeback: add some debug inode list counters to bdi stats Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 10/11] writeback: add name to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 9:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] writeback: check for registered bdi in flusher add and inode dirty Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 12:41 ` [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v8 Richard Kennedy
2009-05-27 12:47 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 14:47 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 15:05 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 17:53 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 17:53 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 17:57 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 17:58 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 17:58 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 18:14 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 19:15 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 19:45 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 0:49 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-28 9:28 ` Jan Kara
2009-05-28 9:28 ` Jan Kara
2009-05-28 9:36 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 15:23 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-05-28 19:32 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-28 19:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-28 19:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
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