From: John Fremlin <chief@bandits.org>
To: "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>
Cc: "Acpi-PM (E-mail)"
<linux-power@phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>,
"'Pavel Machek'" <pavel@suse.cz>,
Simon Richter <Simon.Richter@phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>,
Andreas Ferber <aferber@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Let init know user wants to shutdown
Date: 18 Apr 2001 02:54:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2oftvkm6f.fsf@boreas.yi.org.> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4148FEAAD879D311AC5700A0C969E89006CDDD91@orsmsx35.jf.intel.com>
In-Reply-To: "Grover, Andrew"'s message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:07:30 -0700"
"Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com> writes:
> [do we want to move this to linux-power?]
I'm happy to as long as I'm cc'd.
[...]
IMHO the pm interface should be split up as following:
(1) Battery status, power status, UPS status polling. It
should be possible for lots of processes to do this
simultaneously. [That does not prohibit a single process
querying the kernel and all the others querying it.]
(2) Funky events happening to the physical machine, like a
button being pressed, the case being closed, etc. [Should this
include battery low warnings, power status changes? I don't
know.]
(3) Sending the machine to sleep, turning it off. It should be
possible to do this from userspace ;-)
Am I missing anything? Of course (1) and (2) could be combined into a
single daemon.
ATM the area is fraught with incompatibility. There are a ridiculous
number of power management systems - one per architecture almost. Each
has a different kernel-userspace interface. Every UPS has its own
interface too (?) ;-)
> There should be only one PM policy agent on the system.
Why?
As far as I see it, only some people need polling capabilities -
i.e. those on battery or UPS. Why should they be subjected to the
bloat etc. And those on battery might want multiple policies as Alan
pointed out.
[...]
--
http://www.penguinpowered.com/~vii
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-18 1:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-18 0:07 Let init know user wants to shutdown Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18 0:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18 1:56 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 11:55 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18 19:10 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 20:10 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18 20:21 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 21:05 ` Avery Pennarun
2001-04-18 21:34 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:02 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-02 16:52 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:01 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-20 23:41 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-21 7:54 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-24 0:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-24 1:08 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-24 10:06 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-25 14:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-25 16:11 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-18 1:54 ` John Fremlin [this message]
2001-04-19 3:54 ` Next gen PM interface John Fremlin
2001-04-19 4:07 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-19 5:08 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-04-19 18:57 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19 19:09 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-04-19 19:30 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19 19:07 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:08 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-18 22:52 Let init know user wants to shutdown Grover, Andrew
2001-04-26 22:10 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-18 21:46 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18 22:09 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-18 22:30 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19 2:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-19 12:04 ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-18 18:28 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18 18:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-18 19:36 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-17 16:45 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-17 19:54 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-17 22:23 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 15:26 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-18 19:51 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-16 23:32 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-17 6:40 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-17 6:41 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-17 11:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-12 17:25 David Balazic
2001-04-16 7:03 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-11 17:06 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-11 18:29 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11 4:31 alad
2001-04-10 17:05 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-11 4:23 ` John R Lenton
2001-04-11 14:59 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11 12:20 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-11 15:10 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11 14:56 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-04 22:02 Pavel Machek
2001-04-10 23:20 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:30 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:38 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-04-10 23:46 ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-04-10 23:53 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:41 ` Mike Castle
2001-04-13 0:29 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-16 12:42 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 15:49 ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-16 16:25 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 21:27 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-16 21:44 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 22:38 ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-17 6:16 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-17 8:39 ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-17 14:09 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 21:36 ` Ben Ford
[not found] ` <9b04food@ncc1701.cistron.net>
[not found] ` <9b052eod@ncc1701.cistron.net>
2001-04-13 0:26 ` Pavel Machek
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