* Re: [lm-sensors] System Monitor cannot read sensors anymore
2014-12-11 11:26 [lm-sensors] System Monitor cannot read sensors anymore Richard Llom
@ 2014-12-11 13:47 ` Jean Delvare
2014-12-11 15:06 ` Richard Llom
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From: Jean Delvare @ 2014-12-11 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hi Richard,
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:26:30 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
> Hi,
> after a recent kernel update to 3.17.4 in my distro I can't read my sensors
> anymore with my beloved ksysguard (/System Monitor). Strange thing is, I can
> still see the sensors with "sensors" (see below).
>
> So I was wondering if something changed with this kernel or if there are
> known issues?
We are in the process of converting many drivers to have their
attributes attached to the hwmon class device instead of the physical
device. Any application not relying on libsensors may get confused by
this change. We had reports of this happening already. That being said,
the drivers you are using have not been converted in 3.17. k10temp was
converted in 3.18, while it87 was not converted yet. So I'm a bit
confused. Plus I think ksysguard is using libsensors anyway. Which
verions of ksysguard and libsensors are you using?
> What daemon/service (?) is responsible for providing the sensor data to
> programs? How can I check if it is running correctly?
No service is doing that. The information is available in sysfs, and
libsensors gets it from there and makes it available to applications in
an easy way.
I'm not too sure how to debug this further. Can you describe the
symptoms better? Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
--
Jean Delvare
SUSE L3 Support
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2014-12-11 11:26 [lm-sensors] System Monitor cannot read sensors anymore Richard Llom
2014-12-11 13:47 ` Jean Delvare
@ 2014-12-11 15:06 ` Richard Llom
2014-12-12 16:36 ` Guenter Roeck
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2014-12-11 11:26 [lm-sensors] System Monitor cannot read sensors anymore Richard Llom
2014-12-11 13:47 ` Jean Delvare
2014-12-11 15:06 ` Richard Llom
@ 2014-12-12 16:36 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-16 23:10 ` Richard Llom
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2014-12-12 16:36 ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2014-12-16 23:10 ` Richard Llom
2014-12-17 3:01 ` Guenter Roeck
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From: Richard Llom @ 2014-12-16 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 04:06:02PM +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>> Jean Delvare wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:26:30 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>>>> after a recent kernel update to 3.17.4 in my distro I can't read my
>>>> sensors anymore with my beloved ksysguard (/System Monitor). Strange
>>>> thing is, I can still see the sensors with "sensors" (see below).
>>>>
>>> Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
>>> spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
>>>
>> This is the output from the terminal
>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>> COMMAND for: "lmsensors/k10temp-pci-00c3/temp1?"
>> ...
>>
> FWIW, I tried ksysguard with a 3.18 kernel and did not see any problems.
> I currently have acpitz-virtual, coretemp, nct6792, max6695, tmp435, and
> tmp451 connected to the system. I tried with Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10.
>
I tried it with a former kernel (3.16) on a live session of chakra and it
works there, too...
Is there any information on how to debug this further?
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From: Guenter Roeck @ 2014-12-17 3:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On 12/16/2014 03:10 PM, Richard Llom wrote:
> Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 04:06:02PM +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>>> Jean Delvare wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:26:30 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>>>>> after a recent kernel update to 3.17.4 in my distro I can't read my
>>>>> sensors anymore with my beloved ksysguard (/System Monitor). Strange
>>>>> thing is, I can still see the sensors with "sensors" (see below).
>>>>>
>>>> Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
>>>> spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
>>>>
>>> This is the output from the terminal
>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>> COMMAND for: "lmsensors/k10temp-pci-00c3/temp1?"
>>> ...
>>>
>> FWIW, I tried ksysguard with a 3.18 kernel and did not see any problems.
>> I currently have acpitz-virtual, coretemp, nct6792, max6695, tmp435, and
>> tmp451 connected to the system. I tried with Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10.
>>
> I tried it with a former kernel (3.16) on a live session of chakra and it
> works there, too...
>
>
> Is there any information on how to debug this further?
>
I for my part have no idea right now :-(.
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From: Guenter Roeck @ 2014-12-17 3:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On 12/16/2014 03:10 PM, Richard Llom wrote:
> Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 04:06:02PM +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>>> Jean Delvare wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:26:30 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>>>>> after a recent kernel update to 3.17.4 in my distro I can't read my
>>>>> sensors anymore with my beloved ksysguard (/System Monitor). Strange
>>>>> thing is, I can still see the sensors with "sensors" (see below).
>>>>>
>>>> Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
>>>> spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
>>>>
>>> This is the output from the terminal
>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>> COMMAND for: "lmsensors/k10temp-pci-00c3/temp1?"
>>> ...
>>>
>> FWIW, I tried ksysguard with a 3.18 kernel and did not see any problems.
>> I currently have acpitz-virtual, coretemp, nct6792, max6695, tmp435, and
>> tmp451 connected to the system. I tried with Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10.
>>
> I tried it with a former kernel (3.16) on a live session of chakra and it
> works there, too...
>
>
> Is there any information on how to debug this further?
>
I downloaded the source, but unfortunately the code is too chaotic for me
to understand it :-(. I didn't find anything on the web either.
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From: Jean Delvare @ 2014-12-17 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:06:02 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
> Jean Delvare wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:26:30 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
> System Monitor Version 4.11.14
> Using KDE Development Platform 4.14.3
>
> pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libsensors.so.4.3.2
> /usr/lib/libsensors.so.4.3.2 is owned by lm_sensors 3.3.5-1
OK, this is recent enough so I don't think there is any problem with
the library.
> >> What daemon/service (?) is responsible for providing the sensor data to
> >> programs? How can I check if it is running correctly?
> >
> > No service is doing that. The information is available in sysfs, and
> > libsensors gets it from there and makes it available to applications in
> > an easy way.
>
> Where exactly in /sys ? Because here I can't find anything there related to
> my sensors...
In /sys/class/hwmon.
> > (...)
> > Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
> > spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
>
> This is the output from the terminal
> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN COMMAND
> for: "lmsensors/k10temp-pci-00c3/temp1?"
> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN COMMAND
> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/temp1?"
> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN COMMAND
> for: "lmsensors/nouveau-pci-0100/temp1?"
> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN COMMAND
> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan1?"
> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN COMMAND
> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan2?"
This should be reported to the maintainers of ksysguardd, this is an
application error after all.
--
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From: Richard Llom @ 2014-12-18 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Jean Delvare wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:06:02 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>> Jean Delvare wrote:
>>> No service is doing that. The information is available in sysfs, and
>>> libsensors gets it from there and makes it available to applications in
>>> an easy way.
>>
>> Where exactly in /sys ? Because here I can't find anything there related
>> to my sensors...
>
> In /sys/class/hwmon.
>
Hmm, but didn't you wrote earlier that k10temp and it87 are not (yet)
converted?
This is my directory listing from [hwmon]$ ls -Rl
.:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon0 ->
../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/0000:01:00.0/hwmon/hwmon0/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon1 ->
../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:18.3/hwmon/hwmon1/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon2 ->
../../devices/platform/it87.552/hwmon/hwmon2/
should there be a directory lmsensors?
>>> (...)
>>> Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
>>> spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
>>
>> This is the output from the terminal
>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>> COMMAND
>> for: "lmsensors/k10temp-pci-00c3/temp1?"
>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>> COMMAND
>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/temp1?"
>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>> COMMAND
>> for: "lmsensors/nouveau-pci-0100/temp1?"
>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>> COMMAND
>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan1?"
>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>> COMMAND
>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan2?"
>
> This should be reported to the maintainers of ksysguardd, this is an
> application error after all.
>
Or ksysguard actually doesn't use libsensors at all and is looking for the
information in the wrong place?
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From: Guenter Roeck @ 2014-12-18 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On 12/18/2014 04:29 AM, Richard Llom wrote:
> Jean Delvare wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:06:02 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>>> Jean Delvare wrote:
>>>> No service is doing that. The information is available in sysfs, and
>>>> libsensors gets it from there and makes it available to applications in
>>>> an easy way.
>>>
>>> Where exactly in /sys ? Because here I can't find anything there related
>>> to my sensors...
>>
>> In /sys/class/hwmon.
>>
> Hmm, but didn't you wrote earlier that k10temp and it87 are not (yet)
> converted?
>
> This is my directory listing from [hwmon]$ ls -Rl
> .:
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon0 ->
> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/0000:01:00.0/hwmon/hwmon0/
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon1 ->
> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:18.3/hwmon/hwmon1/
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon2 ->
> ../../devices/platform/it87.552/hwmon/hwmon2/
>
> should there be a directory lmsensors?
>
No.
Look in /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/device.
Guenter
>>>> (...)
>>>> Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
>>>> spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
>>>
>>> This is the output from the terminal
>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>> COMMAND
>>> for: "lmsensors/k10temp-pci-00c3/temp1?"
>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>> COMMAND
>>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/temp1?"
>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>> COMMAND
>>> for: "lmsensors/nouveau-pci-0100/temp1?"
>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>> COMMAND
>>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan1?"
>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>> COMMAND
>>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan2?"
>>
>> This should be reported to the maintainers of ksysguardd, this is an
>> application error after all.
>>
> Or ksysguard actually doesn't use libsensors at all and is looking for the
> information in the wrong place?
>
>
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From: Richard Llom @ 2014-12-18 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 12/18/2014 04:29 AM, Richard Llom wrote:
>> Jean Delvare wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:06:02 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
>>>> Jean Delvare wrote:
>>>
>>> In /sys/class/hwmon.
>>>
>> Hmm, but didn't you wrote earlier that k10temp and it87 are not (yet)
>> converted?
>>
>> This is my directory listing from [hwmon]$ ls -Rl
>> .:
>> total 0
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon0 ->
>> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/0000:01:00.0/hwmon/hwmon0/
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon1 ->
>> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:18.3/hwmon/hwmon1/
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 18.12.2014 09:23 hwmon2 ->
>> ../../devices/platform/it87.552/hwmon/hwmon2/
>>
>> should there be a directory lmsensors?
>>
> No.
>
> Look in /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/device.
>
Ok, found it. And this is now the state before or after the conversion (Jean
"We are in the process of converting many drivers to have their
attributes attached to the hwmon class device instead of the physical
device.")?
And what would be the other case/path?
>>>>> (...)
>>>>> Can you run ksysguard from a terminal and see if it's
>>>>> spitting any error message (or logging them somewhere maybe?)
>>>>
>>>> This is the output from the terminal
>>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>>> COMMAND
>>>> for: "lmsensors/k10temp-pci-00c3/temp1?"
>>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>>> COMMAND
>>>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/temp1?"
>>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>>> COMMAND
>>>> for: "lmsensors/nouveau-pci-0100/temp1?"
>>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>>> COMMAND
>>>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan1?"
>>>> ksysguard(3168) KSGRD::SensorAgent::processAnswer: Received UNKNOWN
>>>> COMMAND
>>>> for: "lmsensors/it8720-isa-0228/fan2?"
>>>
>>> This should be reported to the maintainers of ksysguardd, this is an
>>> application error after all.
>>>
>> Or ksysguard actually doesn't use libsensors at all and is looking for
>> the information in the wrong place?
>>
The "lmsensors/nouveau-pci-0100/temp1?" output refers then probably to an
internal function...
Still no clue whats the cause is of all this trouble. And there weren't any
recent changes in ksysguard.
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From: Jean Delvare @ 2014-12-18 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
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2014-12-11 11:26 [lm-sensors] System Monitor cannot read sensors anymore Richard Llom
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From: Guenter Roeck @ 2014-12-18 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 05:49:19PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> Le Thursday 18 December 2014 à 16:33 +0000, Richard Llom a écrit :
> > Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > Le Thursday 18 December 2014 à 12:29 +0000, Richard Llom a écrit :
> > >> Jean Delvare wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:06:02 +0100, Richard Llom wrote:
> > >> Or ksysguard actually doesn't use libsensors at all and is looking for
> > >> the information in the wrong place?
> > >
> > > When the libsensors API changed (from lm-sensors 2.x to 3.x), we
> > > converted ksysguard:
> > > http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Libsensors4AppSupport
> > >
> > Aha, good to know.
> >
> > > So back then they certainly did use libsensors. I checked version 4.3.5,
> > > which is what's available on my system, and it does link against
> > > libsensors.so.4. Can you check the output of:
> > > $ ldd /usr/bin/ksysguardd
> > > (or whatever the path is on your system)?
> > >
> > $ ldd /usr/bin/ksysguardd
> > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fff49132000)
> > libc.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007f5f72de8000)
> > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f5f7318b000)
>
> OK, so apparently they stopped using libsensors at some point. Which was
> a very bad idea, as you just found out. Please report to them.
>
On my system (Ubuntu 14.10):
ldd /usr/bin/ksysguardd
linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fffc51fe000)
libsensors.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libsensors.so.4 (0x00007f19f8e05000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f19f8a40000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f19f8739000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f19f903c000)
with
/usr/bin/ksysguardd --version
ksysguardd 4
(c) 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 Chris Schlaeger <cs@kde.org>
(c) 2001 Tobias Koenig <tokoe@kde.org>
(c) 2006-2008 Greg Martyn <greg.martyn@gmail.com>
This program is part of the KDE Project and licensed under
the GNU GPL version 2. See http://www.kde.org for details.
Usage: /usr/bin/ksysguardd [-d] [-i] [-p port]
dpkg also shows a dependency of ksysguardd on libsensors.
Package: ksysguardd
Source: kde-workspace
Version: 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libsensors4 (>= 1:3.0.0)
Maybe there are different versions and/or build options ?
Guenter
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2014-12-19 0:34 ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2014-12-19 13:34 ` Richard Llom
2014-12-19 14:03 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-21 21:22 ` Richard Llom
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@ 2014-12-19 14:03 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-21 21:22 ` Richard Llom
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2014-12-11 11:26 [lm-sensors] System Monitor cannot read sensors anymore Richard Llom
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2014-12-19 14:03 ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2014-12-21 21:22 ` Richard Llom
19 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Richard Llom @ 2014-12-21 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 12/19/2014 05:34 AM, Richard Llom wrote:
>> Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On 12/18/2014 11:03 AM, Richard Llom wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the input guys!
>>>> I reported this to my distro/packager, lets see what they say (maybe it
>>>> is just an packaging error).
>>>
>>> Did you change the distro version ? I thought you just updated the
>>> kernel.
>>>
>> It's a (half-) rolling distro. The kernel update was major update and
>> came with a new KDE 4 SC release as well.
>>
>
> Can you load the older (3.16) kernel with the new version of KDE ?
> That would tell us if the culprit is the kernel or ksysguard.
>
Tested on downgrade 3.16 and there are no hardware sensors as well, so its
probably related the KDE update / package.
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