[LARTC] Ethloop?

[LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

Dear all,

I copy a Ethloop script for tc script, but no response???
Does anyone know how to use ethloop?


Ethloop;
#1st parameter -- time in milliseconds from program start
#2nd parameter -- operation to do
#3rd parameter -- flow id
#4th parameter -- operation dependent
#
#e.g 5000 R 2 4500000
#means at time 5sec set rate of flow 2 to 4.5MBps
#Time should be in increasing time order
#Each line is executed at its time and will change the ongoing traffic
generators

#example1
#Two flow simulation
# Two flow simulation

# lo will be used to TX and RX
0       i       P 0x10010       lo
0       i       P 0x10020       lo

# set simulation packet size to 1k
0       S      P 0x10010        1k
0       S      P 0x10020   1k

# start both flows
0       R      P 0x10010        100k
0       R      P 0x10020        100k

# flow 1 to 50k and 10k later
2000    R      P 0x10010        50k
4000    R      P 0x10020        10k

# finish at 6sec
6000    X      0        0


tc script:

echo Clean all the tc setup
./tc qdisc del dev eth0 root

echo Core router

echo Create qdisc and set default to 1:30
./tc qdisc add dev eth1 root handle 1: htb default 30
./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 1.5Mbit burst 50k

echo Create class for EF
./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 0.5Mbit ceil
0.5Mbit burst 50k prio 1

echo Create class for AF
./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:2 classid 1:20 htb rate 0.5Mbit ceil
1Mbit burst 30K prio 1

echo Create class for BE
./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:2 classid 1:30 htb rate 0.3Mbit ceil
1Mbit burst 30k prio 2
./tc qdisc add dev eth1 parent 1:30 red limit 1800KB min 150KB max 450KB
burst 200 avpkt 1000 bandwidth 1Mbit probability 0.4

echo Filter
./tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1: protocol ip prio 1 u32 match ip tos
0xb8 0xff classid 1:10
./tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1: protocol ip prio 2 u32 match ip tos 0x0
0xff classid 1:20
./tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1: protocol ip prio 3 u32 match ip tos
0x98 0xff classid 1:30


Thank you

Patrick

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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[Martin Devera]

What is the problem ? use cat ethloop_script|./ethloop
for example ..
devik

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I copy a Ethloop script for tc script, but no response???
> Does anyone know how to use ethloop?
>
>
> Ethloop;
> #1st parameter -- time in milliseconds from program start
> #2nd parameter -- operation to do
> #3rd parameter -- flow id
> #4th parameter -- operation dependent
> #
> #e.g 5000 R 2 4500000
> #means at time 5sec set rate of flow 2 to 4.5MBps
> #Time should be in increasing time order
> #Each line is executed at its time and will change the ongoing traffic
> generators
>
> #example1
> #Two flow simulation
> # Two flow simulation
>
> # lo will be used to TX and RX
> 0       i       P 0x10010       lo
> 0       i       P 0x10020       lo
>
> # set simulation packet size to 1k
> 0       S      P 0x10010        1k
> 0       S      P 0x10020   1k
>
> # start both flows
> 0       R      P 0x10010        100k
> 0       R      P 0x10020        100k
>
> # flow 1 to 50k and 10k later
> 2000    R      P 0x10010        50k
> 4000    R      P 0x10020        10k
>
> # finish at 6sec
> 6000    X      0        0
>
>
> tc script:
>
> echo Clean all the tc setup
> ./tc qdisc del dev eth0 root
>
> echo Core router
>
> echo Create qdisc and set default to 1:30
> ./tc qdisc add dev eth1 root handle 1: htb default 30
> ./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 1.5Mbit burst 50k
>
> echo Create class for EF
> ./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 0.5Mbit ceil
> 0.5Mbit burst 50k prio 1
>
> echo Create class for AF
> ./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:2 classid 1:20 htb rate 0.5Mbit ceil
> 1Mbit burst 30K prio 1
>
> echo Create class for BE
> ./tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:2 classid 1:30 htb rate 0.3Mbit ceil
> 1Mbit burst 30k prio 2
> ./tc qdisc add dev eth1 parent 1:30 red limit 1800KB min 150KB max 450KB
> burst 200 avpkt 1000 bandwidth 1Mbit probability 0.4
>
> echo Filter
> ./tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1: protocol ip prio 1 u32 match ip tos
> 0xb8 0xff classid 1:10
> ./tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1: protocol ip prio 2 u32 match ip tos 0x0
> 0xff classid 1:20
> ./tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1: protocol ip prio 3 u32 match ip tos
> 0x98 0xff classid 1:30
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Patrick
>
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

Thank you for your reply :)
I try to follow chapter 6 on your user guide.

		1:1
	      /     \ 
 	    1:2     1:12
           /   \
         1:10   1:11
        (prio1) (prio2)

If 1:12 don't have any traffic, all the BW on 1:12 can be assigned to 1:2,
is that right?

I try to put all these extra (from 1:12) to 1:10, my htb script is as
follows, and I use ethloop to test and I found that 1:10 will not get the
extra from 1:12. Could you tell me where I make a mistake? Thank you.

echo Clean all the tc setup
./tc qdisc del dev lo root
./tc qdisc add dev lo root handle 1: htb default 12

./tc class add dev lo parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 100kbps
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:2 htb rate 40kbps
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:10 htb rate 30kbps prio 0
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:11 htb rate 10kbps prio 1
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:12 htb rate 60kbps

echo qdisc
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:10 handle 20: pfifo limit 5
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:11 handle 30: pfifo limit 5
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:12 handle 40: sfq perturb 10

Input for ethloop:
 
# lo will be used to TX and RX
0       i       0       lo
0       i       1       lo
0       i       2       lo
# set simulation packet size to 1k
0       S       0       1k
0       S       1       1k
0       S       2       1k
# flow 0 AE, flow 1  BE, flow 2 EF
0       P       0       0x10010
0       P       1       0x10011
0       P       2       0x10012
# start all flow at defined rate
0       R       0       30000
0       R       1       10000
0       R       2       60000
# Create extra at 1:12 and borrow this to 1:2 <------?
5000    R       0       30000
5000    R       1       10000
5000    R       2       0
# 1:10 and 1:11 and 1:10 should get higher value <------?
15000    R      0       40000
15000    R       1      20000
# finish at 8sec
25000    X      0        0

Result is to long, I use gnuplot and found that 1:10 at most get 30000.

Thank you for you help.

Pat



On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:

> What is the problem ? use cat ethloop_script|./ethloop
> for example ..
> devik
> 
> On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> 

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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[Martin Devera]

You either missed "ceil" parameter or it is missing on my page :)
Without ceil it is the same as rate thus all classes are bounded
in fact. Add ceil 100kbps to each line.
devik

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:

> Thank you for your reply :)
> I try to follow chapter 6 on your user guide.
>
> 		1:1
> 	      /     \
>  	    1:2     1:12
>            /   \
>          1:10   1:11
>         (prio1) (prio2)
>
> If 1:12 don't have any traffic, all the BW on 1:12 can be assigned to 1:2,
> is that right?
>
> I try to put all these extra (from 1:12) to 1:10, my htb script is as
> follows, and I use ethloop to test and I found that 1:10 will not get the
> extra from 1:12. Could you tell me where I make a mistake? Thank you.
>
> echo Clean all the tc setup
> ./tc qdisc del dev lo root
> ./tc qdisc add dev lo root handle 1: htb default 12
>
> ./tc class add dev lo parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 100kbps
> ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:2 htb rate 40kbps
> ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:10 htb rate 30kbps prio 0
> ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:11 htb rate 10kbps prio 1
> ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:12 htb rate 60kbps
>
> echo qdisc
> ./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:10 handle 20: pfifo limit 5
> ./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:11 handle 30: pfifo limit 5
> ./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:12 handle 40: sfq perturb 10
>
> Input for ethloop:
>
> # lo will be used to TX and RX
> 0       i       0       lo
> 0       i       1       lo
> 0       i       2       lo
> # set simulation packet size to 1k
> 0       S       0       1k
> 0       S       1       1k
> 0       S       2       1k
> # flow 0 AE, flow 1  BE, flow 2 EF
> 0       P       0       0x10010
> 0       P       1       0x10011
> 0       P       2       0x10012
> # start all flow at defined rate
> 0       R       0       30000
> 0       R       1       10000
> 0       R       2       60000
> # Create extra at 1:12 and borrow this to 1:2 <------?
> 5000    R       0       30000
> 5000    R       1       10000
> 5000    R       2       0
> # 1:10 and 1:11 and 1:10 should get higher value <------?
> 15000    R      0       40000
> 15000    R       1      20000
> # finish at 8sec
> 25000    X      0        0
>
> Result is to long, I use gnuplot and found that 1:10 at most get 30000.
>
> Thank you for you help.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
>
> > What is the problem ? use cat ethloop_script|./ethloop
> > for example ..
> > devik
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and 
increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line. 

In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need 
prio paramter? How prio parameter works?


echo Clean all the tc setup
./tc qdisc del dev lo root

./tc qdisc add dev lo root handle 1: htb default 12

./tc class add dev lo parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 100kbps ceil 100kbps
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:2 htb rate 40kbps ceil 100kbps
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:10 htb rate 30kbps ceil 100kbps
prio 0
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:11 htb rate 10kbps ceil 100kbps <-- 10Kbps??
prio 1
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:12 htb rate 60kbps ceil 100kbps 

echo qdisc
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:10 handle 20: pfifo limit 5
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:11 handle 30: pfifo limit 5
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:12 handle 40: sfq perturb 10



On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:

> You either missed "ceil" parameter or it is missing on my page :)
> Without ceil it is the same as rate thus all classes are bounded
> in fact. Add ceil 100kbps to each line.
> devik
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> 
> > Thank you for your reply :)
> > I try to follow chapter 6 on your user guide.
> >
> > 		1:1
> > 	      /     \
> >  	    1:2     1:12
> >            /   \
> >          1:10   1:11
> >         (prio1) (prio2)
> >
> > If 1:12 don't have any traffic, all the BW on 1:12 can be assigned to 1:2,
> > is that right?
> >
> > I try to put all these extra (from 1:12) to 1:10, my htb script is as
> > follows, and I use ethloop to test and I found that 1:10 will not get the
> > extra from 1:12. Could you tell me where I make a mistake? Thank you.
> >
> > echo Clean all the tc setup
> > ./tc qdisc del dev lo root
> > ./tc qdisc add dev lo root handle 1: htb default 12
> >
> > ./tc class add dev lo parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 100kbps
> > ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:2 htb rate 40kbps
> > ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:10 htb rate 30kbps prio 0
> > ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:11 htb rate 10kbps prio 1
> > ./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:12 htb rate 60kbps
> >
> > echo qdisc
> > ./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:10 handle 20: pfifo limit 5
> > ./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:11 handle 30: pfifo limit 5
> > ./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:12 handle 40: sfq perturb 10
> >
> > Input for ethloop:
> >
> > # lo will be used to TX and RX
> > 0       i       0       lo
> > 0       i       1       lo
> > 0       i       2       lo
> > # set simulation packet size to 1k
> > 0       S       0       1k
> > 0       S       1       1k
> > 0       S       2       1k
> > # flow 0 AE, flow 1  BE, flow 2 EF
> > 0       P       0       0x10010
> > 0       P       1       0x10011
> > 0       P       2       0x10012
> > # start all flow at defined rate
> > 0       R       0       30000
> > 0       R       1       10000
> > 0       R       2       60000
> > # Create extra at 1:12 and borrow this to 1:2 <------?
> > 5000    R       0       30000
> > 5000    R       1       10000
> > 5000    R       2       0
> > # 1:10 and 1:11 and 1:10 should get higher value <------?
> > 15000    R      0       40000
> > 15000    R       1      20000
> > # finish at 8sec
> > 25000    X      0        0
> >
> > Result is to long, I use gnuplot and found that 1:10 at most get 30000.
> >
> > Thank you for you help.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> >
> > > What is the problem ? use cat ethloop_script|./ethloop
> > > for example ..
> > > devik
> > >
> > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 

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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[Martin Devera]

> Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.

sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.

> In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> prio paramter? How prio parameter works?

your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
only "secondary" product.

Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.

devik

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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[Martin Devera]

What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
tc -s -d class show dev xxx
outoput after test pic5 generation.
devik

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:

> Thank you again for you help!
> Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
>
> My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
>
> > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> >
> > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> >
> > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> >
> > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > only "secondary" product.
> >
> > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> >
> > devik
> >
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

Thank you for you help.
Here is the HTB

echo Clean all the tc setup
./tc qdisc del dev lo root

./tc qdisc add dev lo root handle 1: htb default 12

./tc class add dev lo parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 100kbps ceil 100kbps
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:2 htb rate 40kbps ceil 100kbps
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:10 htb rate 30kbps ceil 100kbps
prio 0
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:11 htb rate 10kbps ceil 100kbps
prio 1
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:1 classid 1:12 htb rate 60kbps ceil 100kbps

echo qdisc
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:10 handle 20: pfifo limit 5
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:11 handle 30: pfifo limit 5
./tc qdisc add dev lo parent 1:12 handle 40: sfq perturb 10

            _________________________1:11
	   /
	  /
_________/    ___________________ 1:12 (to should not be increse)???
	     /
 -----------/

Result

0.5 23233 23233 0 0 7744 7744 0 0 44545 44545 0 0
1.0 28987 28987 0 0 9662 9662 0 0 57518 57518 0 0
1.5 29609 29609 0 0 10139 10139 0 0 59920 59920 0 0
2.0 30583 30583 0 0 10258 10258 0 0 59877 59877 0 0
2.5 28941 28941 0 0 10308 10308 0 0 58869 58869 0 0
3.0 30374 30374 0 0 10282 10282 0 0 60982 60982 0 0
3.5 29747 29747 0 0 8874 8874 0 0 59755 59755 0 0
4.0 29736 29736 0 0 9818 9818 0 0 59993 59993 0 0
4.5 30679 30679 0 0 10204 10204 0 0 14237 14237 0 0
5.0 29897 29897 0 0 10365 10365 0 0 3378 3378 0 0
5.5 30670 30670 0 0 10318 10318 0 0 802 802 0 0
6.0 30576 30576 0 0 10214 10214 0 0 190 190 0 0
6.5 28799 28799 0 0 10245 10245 0 0 45 45 0 0
7.0 30321 30321 0 0 8340 8340 0 0 11 11 0 0
7.5 45445 45445 0 0 18142 18142 0 0 3 3 0 0
8.0 48046 48046 0 0 19985 19985 0 0 1 1 0 0
8.5 50644 50644 0 0 17879 17879 0 0 0 0 0 0
9.0 50885 50885 0 0 19094 19094 0 0 0 0 0 0
9.5 50467 50467 0 0 20211 20211 0 0 0 0 0 0
10.0 49349 49349 0 0 20513 20513 0 0 0 0 0 0






On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:

> > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> 
> sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> 
> > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> 
> your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> only "secondary" product.
> 
> Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> 
> devik
> 
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

Here is the version and info. 

Version htb3_2.4.17

[root@samwise htb]# ./tc -s -d class show dev lo
class htb 1:11 parent 1:2 leaf 30: prio 1 quantum 1024 rate 80Kbit ceil
800Kbit burst 1701b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0 
 Sent 130048 bytes 127 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) 
 rate 254bps 
 lended: 100 borrowed: 27 giants: 0
 tokens: -60449 ctokens: 12800

class htb 1:1 root rate 800Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2623b/8 mpu 0b cburst
2623b/8 mpu 0b level 7  Sent 730112 bytes 713 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits
0) 
 rate 1426bps 1pps 
 lended: 81 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
 tokens: 12800 ctokens: 12800

class htb 1:10 parent 1:2 leaf 20: prio 0 quantum 3072 rate 240Kbit ceil
800Kbit burst 1906b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0 
 Sent 360448 bytes 352 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) 
 rate 704bps 
 lended: 298 borrowed: 54 giants: 0
 tokens: -36462 ctokens: 12800

class htb 1:2 parent 1:1 rate 320Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2008b/8 mpu 0b
cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 6 
 Sent 490496 bytes 479 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) 
 rate 958bps 
 lended: 0 borrowed: 81 giants: 0
 tokens: -62221 ctokens: 12800

class htb 1:12 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 0 quantum 6144 rate 480Kbit ceil
800Kbit burst 2213b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0 
 Sent 239616 bytes 234 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) 
 rate 426bps 
 lended: 234 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
 tokens: 15867 ctokens: 12800



result for all line with 100kbps (pic5)

0.5 23947 23947 0 0 7982 7982 0 0 45228 45228 0 0
1.0 29036 29036 0 0 9571 9571 0 0 57118 57118 0 0
1.5 29318 29318 0 0 10107 10107 0 0 59489 59489 0 0
2.0 30522 30522 0 0 10253 10253 0 0 59327 59327 0 0
2.5 28197 28197 0 0 10280 10280 0 0 61159 61159 0 0
3.0 30910 30910 0 0 7927 7927 0 0 59985 59985 0 0
3.5 30991 30991 0 0 7935 7935 0 0 60665 60665 0 0
4.0 28994 28994 0 0 9598 9598 0 0 59183 59183 0 0
4.5 30150 30150 0 0 10034 10034 0 0 14044 14044 0 0
5.0 28662 28662 0 0 10458 10458 0 0 3333 3333 0 0
5.5 30876 30876 0 0 10506 10506 0 0 791 791 0 0
6.0 28540 28540 0 0 10523 10523 0 0 188 188 0 0
6.5 29107 29107 0 0 10154 10154 0 0 45 45 0 0
7.0 30387 30387 0 0 8500 8500 0 0 11 11 0 0
7.5 45085 45085 0 0 18230 18230 0 0 3 3 0 0
8.0 49523 49523 0 0 19855 19855 0 0 1 1 0 0
8.5 49546 49546 0 0 20405 20405 0 0 0 0 0 0
9.0 50916 50916 0 0 18643 18643 0 0 0 0 0 0
9.5 50410 50410 0 0 20082 20082 0 0 0 0 0 0
10.0 48597 48597 0 0 20453 20453 0 0 0 0 0 0






On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:

> What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
> tc -s -d class show dev xxx
> outoput after test pic5 generation.
> devik
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> 
> > Thank you again for you help!
> > Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> > 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
> >
> > My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> > according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> >
> > > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> > >
> > > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> > >
> > > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> > >
> > > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > > only "secondary" product.
> > >
> > > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> > >
> > > devik
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
> > >
> >
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[Martin Devera]

Ok. It seems you generate only 40kbps by ethloop script. Then you
can't expect your lines to go higher !
Generate 100kbps to 1:11 and 1:10 ...
devik

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:

> Here is the version and info.
>
> Version htb3_2.4.17
>
> [root@samwise htb]# ./tc -s -d class show dev lo
> class htb 1:11 parent 1:2 leaf 30: prio 1 quantum 1024 rate 80Kbit ceil
> 800Kbit burst 1701b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
>  Sent 130048 bytes 127 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>  rate 254bps
>  lended: 100 borrowed: 27 giants: 0
>  tokens: -60449 ctokens: 12800
>
> class htb 1:1 root rate 800Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2623b/8 mpu 0b cburst
> 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 7  Sent 730112 bytes 713 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits
> 0)
>  rate 1426bps 1pps
>  lended: 81 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
>  tokens: 12800 ctokens: 12800
>
> class htb 1:10 parent 1:2 leaf 20: prio 0 quantum 3072 rate 240Kbit ceil
> 800Kbit burst 1906b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
>  Sent 360448 bytes 352 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>  rate 704bps
>  lended: 298 borrowed: 54 giants: 0
>  tokens: -36462 ctokens: 12800
>
> class htb 1:2 parent 1:1 rate 320Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2008b/8 mpu 0b
> cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 6
>  Sent 490496 bytes 479 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>  rate 958bps
>  lended: 0 borrowed: 81 giants: 0
>  tokens: -62221 ctokens: 12800
>
> class htb 1:12 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 0 quantum 6144 rate 480Kbit ceil
> 800Kbit burst 2213b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
>  Sent 239616 bytes 234 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
>  rate 426bps
>  lended: 234 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
>  tokens: 15867 ctokens: 12800
>
>
>
> result for all line with 100kbps (pic5)
>
> 0.5 23947 23947 0 0 7982 7982 0 0 45228 45228 0 0
> 1.0 29036 29036 0 0 9571 9571 0 0 57118 57118 0 0
> 1.5 29318 29318 0 0 10107 10107 0 0 59489 59489 0 0
> 2.0 30522 30522 0 0 10253 10253 0 0 59327 59327 0 0
> 2.5 28197 28197 0 0 10280 10280 0 0 61159 61159 0 0
> 3.0 30910 30910 0 0 7927 7927 0 0 59985 59985 0 0
> 3.5 30991 30991 0 0 7935 7935 0 0 60665 60665 0 0
> 4.0 28994 28994 0 0 9598 9598 0 0 59183 59183 0 0
> 4.5 30150 30150 0 0 10034 10034 0 0 14044 14044 0 0
> 5.0 28662 28662 0 0 10458 10458 0 0 3333 3333 0 0
> 5.5 30876 30876 0 0 10506 10506 0 0 791 791 0 0
> 6.0 28540 28540 0 0 10523 10523 0 0 188 188 0 0
> 6.5 29107 29107 0 0 10154 10154 0 0 45 45 0 0
> 7.0 30387 30387 0 0 8500 8500 0 0 11 11 0 0
> 7.5 45085 45085 0 0 18230 18230 0 0 3 3 0 0
> 8.0 49523 49523 0 0 19855 19855 0 0 1 1 0 0
> 8.5 49546 49546 0 0 20405 20405 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 9.0 50916 50916 0 0 18643 18643 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 9.5 50410 50410 0 0 20082 20082 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 10.0 48597 48597 0 0 20453 20453 0 0 0 0 0 0
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
>
> > What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
> > tc -s -d class show dev xxx
> > outoput after test pic5 generation.
> > devik
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you again for you help!
> > > Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> > > 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
> > >
> > > My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> > > according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> > > >
> > > > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> > > >
> > > > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> > > >
> > > > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > > > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > > > only "secondary" product.
> > > >
> > > > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> > > >
> > > > devik
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl
> > > > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

Thank you, I put 100kbps to both 1:11 and 1:10. 1:10 (prio 0) get almost
50kbps form 60kbps excess and 1:20 (prio 1) get 10kbps form excess.
Is it the expected result?
I gussess the all 60kbps (excess) should go to prio 0 or by proportional
to rate in each class.


Pat

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:

> Ok. It seems you generate only 40kbps by ethloop script. Then you
> can't expect your lines to go higher !
> Generate 100kbps to 1:11 and 1:10 ...
> devik
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> 
> > Here is the version and info.
> >
> > Version htb3_2.4.17
> >
> > [root@samwise htb]# ./tc -s -d class show dev lo
> > class htb 1:11 parent 1:2 leaf 30: prio 1 quantum 1024 rate 80Kbit ceil
> > 800Kbit burst 1701b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> >  Sent 130048 bytes 127 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> >  rate 254bps
> >  lended: 100 borrowed: 27 giants: 0
> >  tokens: -60449 ctokens: 12800
> >
> > class htb 1:1 root rate 800Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2623b/8 mpu 0b cburst
> > 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 7  Sent 730112 bytes 713 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits
> > 0)
> >  rate 1426bps 1pps
> >  lended: 81 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> >  tokens: 12800 ctokens: 12800
> >
> > class htb 1:10 parent 1:2 leaf 20: prio 0 quantum 3072 rate 240Kbit ceil
> > 800Kbit burst 1906b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> >  Sent 360448 bytes 352 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> >  rate 704bps
> >  lended: 298 borrowed: 54 giants: 0
> >  tokens: -36462 ctokens: 12800
> >
> > class htb 1:2 parent 1:1 rate 320Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2008b/8 mpu 0b
> > cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 6
> >  Sent 490496 bytes 479 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> >  rate 958bps
> >  lended: 0 borrowed: 81 giants: 0
> >  tokens: -62221 ctokens: 12800
> >
> > class htb 1:12 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 0 quantum 6144 rate 480Kbit ceil
> > 800Kbit burst 2213b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> >  Sent 239616 bytes 234 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> >  rate 426bps
> >  lended: 234 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> >  tokens: 15867 ctokens: 12800
> >
> >
> >
> > result for all line with 100kbps (pic5)
> >
> > 0.5 23947 23947 0 0 7982 7982 0 0 45228 45228 0 0
> > 1.0 29036 29036 0 0 9571 9571 0 0 57118 57118 0 0
> > 1.5 29318 29318 0 0 10107 10107 0 0 59489 59489 0 0
> > 2.0 30522 30522 0 0 10253 10253 0 0 59327 59327 0 0
> > 2.5 28197 28197 0 0 10280 10280 0 0 61159 61159 0 0
> > 3.0 30910 30910 0 0 7927 7927 0 0 59985 59985 0 0
> > 3.5 30991 30991 0 0 7935 7935 0 0 60665 60665 0 0
> > 4.0 28994 28994 0 0 9598 9598 0 0 59183 59183 0 0
> > 4.5 30150 30150 0 0 10034 10034 0 0 14044 14044 0 0
> > 5.0 28662 28662 0 0 10458 10458 0 0 3333 3333 0 0
> > 5.5 30876 30876 0 0 10506 10506 0 0 791 791 0 0
> > 6.0 28540 28540 0 0 10523 10523 0 0 188 188 0 0
> > 6.5 29107 29107 0 0 10154 10154 0 0 45 45 0 0
> > 7.0 30387 30387 0 0 8500 8500 0 0 11 11 0 0
> > 7.5 45085 45085 0 0 18230 18230 0 0 3 3 0 0
> > 8.0 49523 49523 0 0 19855 19855 0 0 1 1 0 0
> > 8.5 49546 49546 0 0 20405 20405 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > 9.0 50916 50916 0 0 18643 18643 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > 9.5 50410 50410 0 0 20082 20082 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > 10.0 48597 48597 0 0 20453 20453 0 0 0 0 0 0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> >
> > > What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
> > > tc -s -d class show dev xxx
> > > outoput after test pic5 generation.
> > > devik
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you again for you help!
> > > > Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> > > > 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
> > > >
> > > > My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> > > > according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > > > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> > > > >
> > > > > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> > > > >
> > > > > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > > > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > > > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> > > > >
> > > > > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > > > > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > > > > only "secondary" product.
> > > > >
> > > > > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> > > > >
> > > > > devik
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl
> > > > > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[Martin Devera]

ethloop output (as text)

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:

> Thank you, I put 100kbps to both 1:11 and 1:10. 1:10 (prio 0) get almost
> 50kbps form 60kbps excess and 1:20 (prio 1) get 10kbps form excess.
> Is it the expected result?
> I gussess the all 60kbps (excess) should go to prio 0 or by proportional
> to rate in each class.
>
>
> Pat
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
>
> > Ok. It seems you generate only 40kbps by ethloop script. Then you
> > can't expect your lines to go higher !
> > Generate 100kbps to 1:11 and 1:10 ...
> > devik
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> >
> > > Here is the version and info.
> > >
> > > Version htb3_2.4.17
> > >
> > > [root@samwise htb]# ./tc -s -d class show dev lo
> > > class htb 1:11 parent 1:2 leaf 30: prio 1 quantum 1024 rate 80Kbit ceil
> > > 800Kbit burst 1701b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > >  Sent 130048 bytes 127 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > >  rate 254bps
> > >  lended: 100 borrowed: 27 giants: 0
> > >  tokens: -60449 ctokens: 12800
> > >
> > > class htb 1:1 root rate 800Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2623b/8 mpu 0b cburst
> > > 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 7  Sent 730112 bytes 713 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits
> > > 0)
> > >  rate 1426bps 1pps
> > >  lended: 81 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > >  tokens: 12800 ctokens: 12800
> > >
> > > class htb 1:10 parent 1:2 leaf 20: prio 0 quantum 3072 rate 240Kbit ceil
> > > 800Kbit burst 1906b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > >  Sent 360448 bytes 352 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > >  rate 704bps
> > >  lended: 298 borrowed: 54 giants: 0
> > >  tokens: -36462 ctokens: 12800
> > >
> > > class htb 1:2 parent 1:1 rate 320Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2008b/8 mpu 0b
> > > cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 6
> > >  Sent 490496 bytes 479 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > >  rate 958bps
> > >  lended: 0 borrowed: 81 giants: 0
> > >  tokens: -62221 ctokens: 12800
> > >
> > > class htb 1:12 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 0 quantum 6144 rate 480Kbit ceil
> > > 800Kbit burst 2213b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > >  Sent 239616 bytes 234 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > >  rate 426bps
> > >  lended: 234 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > >  tokens: 15867 ctokens: 12800
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > result for all line with 100kbps (pic5)
> > >
> > > 0.5 23947 23947 0 0 7982 7982 0 0 45228 45228 0 0
> > > 1.0 29036 29036 0 0 9571 9571 0 0 57118 57118 0 0
> > > 1.5 29318 29318 0 0 10107 10107 0 0 59489 59489 0 0
> > > 2.0 30522 30522 0 0 10253 10253 0 0 59327 59327 0 0
> > > 2.5 28197 28197 0 0 10280 10280 0 0 61159 61159 0 0
> > > 3.0 30910 30910 0 0 7927 7927 0 0 59985 59985 0 0
> > > 3.5 30991 30991 0 0 7935 7935 0 0 60665 60665 0 0
> > > 4.0 28994 28994 0 0 9598 9598 0 0 59183 59183 0 0
> > > 4.5 30150 30150 0 0 10034 10034 0 0 14044 14044 0 0
> > > 5.0 28662 28662 0 0 10458 10458 0 0 3333 3333 0 0
> > > 5.5 30876 30876 0 0 10506 10506 0 0 791 791 0 0
> > > 6.0 28540 28540 0 0 10523 10523 0 0 188 188 0 0
> > > 6.5 29107 29107 0 0 10154 10154 0 0 45 45 0 0
> > > 7.0 30387 30387 0 0 8500 8500 0 0 11 11 0 0
> > > 7.5 45085 45085 0 0 18230 18230 0 0 3 3 0 0
> > > 8.0 49523 49523 0 0 19855 19855 0 0 1 1 0 0
> > > 8.5 49546 49546 0 0 20405 20405 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > 9.0 50916 50916 0 0 18643 18643 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > 9.5 50410 50410 0 0 20082 20082 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > 10.0 48597 48597 0 0 20453 20453 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > >
> > > > What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
> > > > tc -s -d class show dev xxx
> > > > outoput after test pic5 generation.
> > > > devik
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you again for you help!
> > > > > Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> > > > > 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
> > > > >
> > > > > My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> > > > > according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > > > > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > > > > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > > > > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > > > > > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > > > > > only "secondary" product.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > devik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl
> > > > > > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
>
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

Thank you, I put 100kbps to both 1:11 and 1:10. 1:10 (prio 0) get almost
50kbps form 60kbps excess and 1:20 (prio 1) get 10kbps form excess.
Is it the expected result?
I gussess the all 60kbps (excess) should go to prio 0 or by proportional
to rate in each class. The rate on the original class is 1:3.
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:10 htb rate 30kbps ceil 100kbps
prio 0
./tc class add dev lo parent 1:2 classid 1:11 htb rate 10kbps ceil 100kbps 
prio 1




0.5 23490 23490 0 0 7830 7830 0 0 46202 46202 0 0
1.0 29308 29308 0 0 9471 9471 0 0 57537 57537 0 0
1.5 30066 30066 0 0 10311 10311 0 0 58370 58370 0 0
2.0 30364 30364 0 0 10190 10190 0 0 59133 59133 0 0
2.5 28144 28144 0 0 10251 10251 0 0 61029 61029 0 0
3.0 30859 30859 0 0 7907 7907 0 0 59899 59899 0 0
3.5 30563 30563 0 0 8694 8694 0 0 60245 60245 0 0
4.0 29243 29243 0 0 9873 9873 0 0 58596 58596 0 0
4.5 83553 74535 30 0 78956 16722 205 0 13905 13905 $5.0 97047 89562 20 0
95957 10635 438 0 3300 3300 0 05.5 100414 88939 38 0 100155 13212 553 0
783 783 0 06.0 101170 92980 20 0 101108 9802 570 0 186 186 0 0
6.5 98639 89751 38 0 98624 13015 577 0 44 44 0 0
7.0 99815 93172 20 0 99812 9755 578 0 10 10 0 0
7.5 63232 65056 0 0 39204 23397 41 0 3 3 0 0
8.0 54142 54575 0 0 22722 18971 3 0 1 1 0 0
8.5 51258 51361 0 0 21080 20189 0 0 0 0 0 0
9.0 50674 50698 0 0 20406 20195 0 0 0 0 0 0
9.5 49723 49729 0 0 20402 20351 0 0 0 0 0 0
10.0 51020 51021 0 0 20529 20517 0 0 0 0 0 0



On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:

> ethloop output (as text)
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> >
> > > Ok. It seems you generate only 40kbps by ethloop script. Then you
> > > can't expect your lines to go higher !
> > > Generate 100kbps to 1:11 and 1:10 ...
> > > devik
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is the version and info.
> > > >
> > > > Version htb3_2.4.17
> > > >
> > > > [root@samwise htb]# ./tc -s -d class show dev lo
> > > > class htb 1:11 parent 1:2 leaf 30: prio 1 quantum 1024 rate 80Kbit ceil
> > > > 800Kbit burst 1701b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > >  Sent 130048 bytes 127 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > >  rate 254bps
> > > >  lended: 100 borrowed: 27 giants: 0
> > > >  tokens: -60449 ctokens: 12800
> > > >
> > > > class htb 1:1 root rate 800Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2623b/8 mpu 0b cburst
> > > > 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 7  Sent 730112 bytes 713 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits
> > > > 0)
> > > >  rate 1426bps 1pps
> > > >  lended: 81 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > > >  tokens: 12800 ctokens: 12800
> > > >
> > > > class htb 1:10 parent 1:2 leaf 20: prio 0 quantum 3072 rate 240Kbit ceil
> > > > 800Kbit burst 1906b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > >  Sent 360448 bytes 352 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > >  rate 704bps
> > > >  lended: 298 borrowed: 54 giants: 0
> > > >  tokens: -36462 ctokens: 12800
> > > >
> > > > class htb 1:2 parent 1:1 rate 320Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2008b/8 mpu 0b
> > > > cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 6
> > > >  Sent 490496 bytes 479 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > >  rate 958bps
> > > >  lended: 0 borrowed: 81 giants: 0
> > > >  tokens: -62221 ctokens: 12800
> > > >
> > > > class htb 1:12 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 0 quantum 6144 rate 480Kbit ceil
> > > > 800Kbit burst 2213b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > >  Sent 239616 bytes 234 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > >  rate 426bps
> > > >  lended: 234 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > > >  tokens: 15867 ctokens: 12800
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > result for all line with 100kbps (pic5)
> > > >
> > > > 0.5 23947 23947 0 0 7982 7982 0 0 45228 45228 0 0
> > > > 1.0 29036 29036 0 0 9571 9571 0 0 57118 57118 0 0
> > > > 1.5 29318 29318 0 0 10107 10107 0 0 59489 59489 0 0
> > > > 2.0 30522 30522 0 0 10253 10253 0 0 59327 59327 0 0
> > > > 2.5 28197 28197 0 0 10280 10280 0 0 61159 61159 0 0
> > > > 3.0 30910 30910 0 0 7927 7927 0 0 59985 59985 0 0
> > > > 3.5 30991 30991 0 0 7935 7935 0 0 60665 60665 0 0
> > > > 4.0 28994 28994 0 0 9598 9598 0 0 59183 59183 0 0
> > > > 4.5 30150 30150 0 0 10034 10034 0 0 14044 14044 0 0
> > > > 5.0 28662 28662 0 0 10458 10458 0 0 3333 3333 0 0
> > > > 5.5 30876 30876 0 0 10506 10506 0 0 791 791 0 0
> > > > 6.0 28540 28540 0 0 10523 10523 0 0 188 188 0 0
> > > > 6.5 29107 29107 0 0 10154 10154 0 0 45 45 0 0
> > > > 7.0 30387 30387 0 0 8500 8500 0 0 11 11 0 0
> > > > 7.5 45085 45085 0 0 18230 18230 0 0 3 3 0 0
> > > > 8.0 49523 49523 0 0 19855 19855 0 0 1 1 0 0
> > > > 8.5 49546 49546 0 0 20405 20405 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > 9.0 50916 50916 0 0 18643 18643 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > 9.5 50410 50410 0 0 20082 20082 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > 10.0 48597 48597 0 0 20453 20453 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
> > > > > tc -s -d class show dev xxx
> > > > > outoput after test pic5 generation.
> > > > > devik
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you again for you help!
> > > > > > Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> > > > > > 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> > > > > > according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > > > > > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > > > > > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > > > > > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > > > > > > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > > > > > > only "secondary" product.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > devik
> > > > > > >
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[Martin Devera]

> 6.0 101170 92980 20 0 101108 9802 570 0 186 186 0 0
> 6.5 98639 89751 38 0 98624 13015 577 0 44 44 0 0
> 7.0 99815 93172 20 0 99812 9755 578 0 10 10 0 0

here it is exacly what you want

 7.5 63232 65056 0 0 39204 23397 41 0 3 3 0 0
> 8.0 54142 54575 0 0 22722 18971 3 0 1 1 0 0
> 8.5 51258 51361 0 0 21080 20189 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 9.0 50674 50698 0 0 20406 20195 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 9.5 49723 49729 0 0 20402 20351 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 10.0 51020 51021 0 0 20529 20517 0 0 0 0 0 0

end here generated rate seems to be 50k not 100 !
seems you need to repair other line in your ethloop script

>
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
>
> > ethloop output (as text)
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok. It seems you generate only 40kbps by ethloop script. Then you
> > > > can't expect your lines to go higher !
> > > > Generate 100kbps to 1:11 and 1:10 ...
> > > > devik
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here is the version and info.
> > > > >
> > > > > Version htb3_2.4.17
> > > > >
> > > > > [root@samwise htb]# ./tc -s -d class show dev lo
> > > > > class htb 1:11 parent 1:2 leaf 30: prio 1 quantum 1024 rate 80Kbit ceil
> > > > > 800Kbit burst 1701b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > > >  Sent 130048 bytes 127 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > >  rate 254bps
> > > > >  lended: 100 borrowed: 27 giants: 0
> > > > >  tokens: -60449 ctokens: 12800
> > > > >
> > > > > class htb 1:1 root rate 800Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2623b/8 mpu 0b cburst
> > > > > 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 7  Sent 730112 bytes 713 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits
> > > > > 0)
> > > > >  rate 1426bps 1pps
> > > > >  lended: 81 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > > > >  tokens: 12800 ctokens: 12800
> > > > >
> > > > > class htb 1:10 parent 1:2 leaf 20: prio 0 quantum 3072 rate 240Kbit ceil
> > > > > 800Kbit burst 1906b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > > >  Sent 360448 bytes 352 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > >  rate 704bps
> > > > >  lended: 298 borrowed: 54 giants: 0
> > > > >  tokens: -36462 ctokens: 12800
> > > > >
> > > > > class htb 1:2 parent 1:1 rate 320Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2008b/8 mpu 0b
> > > > > cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 6
> > > > >  Sent 490496 bytes 479 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > >  rate 958bps
> > > > >  lended: 0 borrowed: 81 giants: 0
> > > > >  tokens: -62221 ctokens: 12800
> > > > >
> > > > > class htb 1:12 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 0 quantum 6144 rate 480Kbit ceil
> > > > > 800Kbit burst 2213b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > > >  Sent 239616 bytes 234 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > >  rate 426bps
> > > > >  lended: 234 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > > > >  tokens: 15867 ctokens: 12800
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > result for all line with 100kbps (pic5)
> > > > >
> > > > > 0.5 23947 23947 0 0 7982 7982 0 0 45228 45228 0 0
> > > > > 1.0 29036 29036 0 0 9571 9571 0 0 57118 57118 0 0
> > > > > 1.5 29318 29318 0 0 10107 10107 0 0 59489 59489 0 0
> > > > > 2.0 30522 30522 0 0 10253 10253 0 0 59327 59327 0 0
> > > > > 2.5 28197 28197 0 0 10280 10280 0 0 61159 61159 0 0
> > > > > 3.0 30910 30910 0 0 7927 7927 0 0 59985 59985 0 0
> > > > > 3.5 30991 30991 0 0 7935 7935 0 0 60665 60665 0 0
> > > > > 4.0 28994 28994 0 0 9598 9598 0 0 59183 59183 0 0
> > > > > 4.5 30150 30150 0 0 10034 10034 0 0 14044 14044 0 0
> > > > > 5.0 28662 28662 0 0 10458 10458 0 0 3333 3333 0 0
> > > > > 5.5 30876 30876 0 0 10506 10506 0 0 791 791 0 0
> > > > > 6.0 28540 28540 0 0 10523 10523 0 0 188 188 0 0
> > > > > 6.5 29107 29107 0 0 10154 10154 0 0 45 45 0 0
> > > > > 7.0 30387 30387 0 0 8500 8500 0 0 11 11 0 0
> > > > > 7.5 45085 45085 0 0 18230 18230 0 0 3 3 0 0
> > > > > 8.0 49523 49523 0 0 19855 19855 0 0 1 1 0 0
> > > > > 8.5 49546 49546 0 0 20405 20405 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > > 9.0 50916 50916 0 0 18643 18643 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > > 9.5 50410 50410 0 0 20082 20082 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > > 10.0 48597 48597 0 0 20453 20453 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
> > > > > > tc -s -d class show dev xxx
> > > > > > outoput after test pic5 generation.
> > > > > > devik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you again for you help!
> > > > > > > Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> > > > > > > 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> > > > > > > according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > > > > > > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > > > > > > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > > > > > > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > > > > > > > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > > > > > > > only "secondary" product.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > devik
> > > > > > > >
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Re: [LARTC] Ethloop?

[King Yung Tong]

It is working. Thank you. I really appreciate your help. :)
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

Pat

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:

> > 6.0 101170 92980 20 0 101108 9802 570 0 186 186 0 0
> > 6.5 98639 89751 38 0 98624 13015 577 0 44 44 0 0
> > 7.0 99815 93172 20 0 99812 9755 578 0 10 10 0 0
> 
> here it is exacly what you want
> 
>  7.5 63232 65056 0 0 39204 23397 41 0 3 3 0 0
> > 8.0 54142 54575 0 0 22722 18971 3 0 1 1 0 0
> > 8.5 51258 51361 0 0 21080 20189 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > 9.0 50674 50698 0 0 20406 20195 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > 9.5 49723 49729 0 0 20402 20351 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > 10.0 51020 51021 0 0 20529 20517 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 
> end here generated rate seems to be 50k not 100 !
> seems you need to repair other line in your ethloop script
> 
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> >
> > > ethloop output (as text)
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pat
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok. It seems you generate only 40kbps by ethloop script. Then you
> > > > > can't expect your lines to go higher !
> > > > > Generate 100kbps to 1:11 and 1:10 ...
> > > > > devik
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the version and info.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Version htb3_2.4.17
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [root@samwise htb]# ./tc -s -d class show dev lo
> > > > > > class htb 1:11 parent 1:2 leaf 30: prio 1 quantum 1024 rate 80Kbit ceil
> > > > > > 800Kbit burst 1701b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > > > >  Sent 130048 bytes 127 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > > >  rate 254bps
> > > > > >  lended: 100 borrowed: 27 giants: 0
> > > > > >  tokens: -60449 ctokens: 12800
> > > > > >
> > > > > > class htb 1:1 root rate 800Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2623b/8 mpu 0b cburst
> > > > > > 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 7  Sent 730112 bytes 713 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits
> > > > > > 0)
> > > > > >  rate 1426bps 1pps
> > > > > >  lended: 81 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > > > > >  tokens: 12800 ctokens: 12800
> > > > > >
> > > > > > class htb 1:10 parent 1:2 leaf 20: prio 0 quantum 3072 rate 240Kbit ceil
> > > > > > 800Kbit burst 1906b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > > > >  Sent 360448 bytes 352 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > > >  rate 704bps
> > > > > >  lended: 298 borrowed: 54 giants: 0
> > > > > >  tokens: -36462 ctokens: 12800
> > > > > >
> > > > > > class htb 1:2 parent 1:1 rate 320Kbit ceil 800Kbit burst 2008b/8 mpu 0b
> > > > > > cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 6
> > > > > >  Sent 490496 bytes 479 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > > >  rate 958bps
> > > > > >  lended: 0 borrowed: 81 giants: 0
> > > > > >  tokens: -62221 ctokens: 12800
> > > > > >
> > > > > > class htb 1:12 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 0 quantum 6144 rate 480Kbit ceil
> > > > > > 800Kbit burst 2213b/8 mpu 0b cburst 2623b/8 mpu 0b level 0
> > > > > >  Sent 239616 bytes 234 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
> > > > > >  rate 426bps
> > > > > >  lended: 234 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
> > > > > >  tokens: 15867 ctokens: 12800
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > result for all line with 100kbps (pic5)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 0.5 23947 23947 0 0 7982 7982 0 0 45228 45228 0 0
> > > > > > 1.0 29036 29036 0 0 9571 9571 0 0 57118 57118 0 0
> > > > > > 1.5 29318 29318 0 0 10107 10107 0 0 59489 59489 0 0
> > > > > > 2.0 30522 30522 0 0 10253 10253 0 0 59327 59327 0 0
> > > > > > 2.5 28197 28197 0 0 10280 10280 0 0 61159 61159 0 0
> > > > > > 3.0 30910 30910 0 0 7927 7927 0 0 59985 59985 0 0
> > > > > > 3.5 30991 30991 0 0 7935 7935 0 0 60665 60665 0 0
> > > > > > 4.0 28994 28994 0 0 9598 9598 0 0 59183 59183 0 0
> > > > > > 4.5 30150 30150 0 0 10034 10034 0 0 14044 14044 0 0
> > > > > > 5.0 28662 28662 0 0 10458 10458 0 0 3333 3333 0 0
> > > > > > 5.5 30876 30876 0 0 10506 10506 0 0 791 791 0 0
> > > > > > 6.0 28540 28540 0 0 10523 10523 0 0 188 188 0 0
> > > > > > 6.5 29107 29107 0 0 10154 10154 0 0 45 45 0 0
> > > > > > 7.0 30387 30387 0 0 8500 8500 0 0 11 11 0 0
> > > > > > 7.5 45085 45085 0 0 18230 18230 0 0 3 3 0 0
> > > > > > 8.0 49523 49523 0 0 19855 19855 0 0 1 1 0 0
> > > > > > 8.5 49546 49546 0 0 20405 20405 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > > > 9.0 50916 50916 0 0 18643 18643 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > > > 9.5 50410 50410 0 0 20082 20082 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > > > 10.0 48597 48597 0 0 20453 20453 0 0 0 0 0 0
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What version of HTB do you use ? Send me
> > > > > > > tc -s -d class show dev xxx
> > > > > > > outoput after test pic5 generation.
> > > > > > > devik
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, King Yung Tong wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you again for you help!
> > > > > > > > Attach is the pic5 for the ceil equal to 100kbps for all line.
> > > > > > > > 	      pic10limit for the ceil equal to 100kbps except 1:20.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My objective is to show if not prio is set the excess should allocate
> > > > > > > > according to rate. If the prio is set, the high prio should get more.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Martin Devera wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you for you answer, 1:10 is incresed but 1:20 is also increased and
> > > > > > > > > > increase to the specific rate if I add 100kbps to every line.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > sounds weird. With higher prio 1:10 should get 90k and 1:11 10k.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In my case, I would like to put all the extra to 1:10 only, is that means
> > > > > > > > > > I have to give 1:11 ceil to 10kbps. If it is, is that means I don't need
> > > > > > > > > > prio paramter? How prio parameter works?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > your understanding is ok, tge ceil 10k is correct - the prio is
> > > > > > > > > meant for lowering delay and change in excess distribution is
> > > > > > > > > only "secondary" product.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Port the resulting graph somewhere so I can look at it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > devik
> > > > > > > > >
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