Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[Trevor Warren]

Hello Sreram,

 AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
appropriately. 

 You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.

Trevor 


On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
> box. There is no separate router.
> 
> I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
> Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
> traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
> higher priority to HTTP traffic.
> 
> Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? 
> 
> I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
> (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
> I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem
> 
> In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
> Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Thanks in Advance!
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[LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[K S Sreeram]

Hi

I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
box. There is no separate router.

I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
higher priority to HTTP traffic.

Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? 

I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
(cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem

In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?

Regards 

Thanks in Advance!
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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[K S Sreeram]

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
> Hello Sreram,
> 
>  AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
> This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
> appropriately. 
> 
>  You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
>

Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
control.
 
> 
> On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
> > box. There is no separate router.
> > 
> > I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
> > Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
> > traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
> > higher priority to HTTP traffic.
> > 
> > Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? 
> > 
> > I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
> > (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
> > I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem
> > 
> > In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
> > Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?
> > 
> > Regards 
> > 
> > Thanks in Advance!
> -- 
> ( >-    GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE      -< )
> /~\    __  trevor@clovertechnologies.com  __   /~\
> |  \) /  Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat     \ (/ |
> |_|_  \    9820349221(M) | 22881326(O)      / _|_|
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> 
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RE: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[K S Sreeram]

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:05, S Mohan wrote:
> Let us say eth0 is connected the Internet and eth1 to the local LAN. Then
> shaping outgoing traffic on eth1 is equivalent to throttling incoming on
> eth0. Another alternative is to use the IMQ device. I recommend the first
> method.

The problem is that I dont have a separate router. I have a single
machine (a laptop), which is connected to the internet with a 128kbps
connection.

I dont know how to do incoming traffic shaping, when only one machine is
present, which is typical in home usage scenarios.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl [mailto:lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl]On
> Behalf Of K S Sreeram
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:01 PM
> To: lartc
> Subject: Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
> > Hello Sreram,
> >
> >  AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
> > This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
> > appropriately.
> >
> >  You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
> >
> 
> Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
> incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
> control.
> 
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
> > > box. There is no separate router.
> > >
> > > I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
> > > Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
> > > traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
> > > higher priority to HTTP traffic.
> > >
> > > Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic?
> > >
> > > I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
> > > (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
> > > I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem
> > >
> > > In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
> > > Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Thanks in Advance!
> > --
> > ( >-    GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE      -< )
> > /~\    __  trevor@clovertechnologies.com  __   /~\
> > |  \) /  Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat     \ (/ |
> > |_|_  \    9820349221(M) | 22881326(O)      / _|_|
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> >
> --
> K S Sreeram
> Director of Research
> Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
> 
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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
> > Hello Sreram,
> >
> >  AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
> > This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
> > appropriately.
> >
> >  You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
>
> Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
> incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
> control.
Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a more 
complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.

Stef

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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[Bernard Robbins]

Stef,

Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?

Stef Coene wrote:
> On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Sreram,
>>>
>>> AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
>>>This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
>>>appropriately.
>>>
>>> You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
>>
>>Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
>>incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
>>control.
> 
> Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a more 
> complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.
> 
> Stef
> 

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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[K S Sreeram]

Hi

I would strongly recommend going with IMQ + HTB. I just installed it
yesterday. It just works beautifully. It gives you the full flexibility
in using HTB SFQ etc, to shape incoming traffic.

Makes me wonder... How come IMQ is not yet part of the standard kernel?
Is it going to be coming in 2.4.22?

Thanks
&
Regards


On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 03:19, Bernard Robbins wrote:
> Stef,
> 
> Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?
> 
> Stef Coene wrote:
> > On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote:
> > 
> >>On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello Sreram,
> >>>
> >>> AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
> >>>This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
> >>>appropriately.
> >>>
> >>> You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
> >>
> >>Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
> >>incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
> >>control.
> > 
> > Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a more 
> > complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.
> > 
> > Stef
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Bernard Robbins
> Systems Support Specialist
> VLM International, Inc.
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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[Steve Wright]

Bernard Robbins wrote:

> Stef,
>
> Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?
>
>> Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a 
>> more complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.
>>
>> Stef
>

I could use this information also..


TIA,
Steve


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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 30 June 2003 20:25, Steve Wright wrote:
> Bernard Robbins wrote:
> > Stef,
> >
> > Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?
> >
> >> Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a
> >> more complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.
> >>
> >> Stef
>
> I could use this information also..
There is some information in the lartc howto about policers.  That's all I 
have.  For imq, you can search the lartc archives.

Stef

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