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From: Brad Hards <bhards@bigpond.net.au>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: hotplugging to deal with firmware download
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 11:11:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-102301645808783@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-102297360623547@msgid-missing>

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 00:44, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 2. Juni 2002 01:16 schrieben Sie:
> > On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 02:07, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > The problem is that this cannot simply work, because a filesystem may
> > > be mounted by nfs.
> >
> > How is this a problem? You simply need to bring the driver up before you
> > remount the nfs filesystem. If you assume that your firmware is on that
> > filesystem, then you couldn't have mounted it in the first place.
> >
> > What am I missing here?
>
> Paging. As soon as user space is running, dirty pages may be written out
> And in order to run a user space firmware loader, user space must
> be functional, or am I overlooking something?
The software support option requires swap to store to, right? That had better 
be on a local disk, or it doesn't matter whether the firmware is in userspace 
or not. Realistically, swap over a network block device isn't a problem worth 
trying to solve.

> Thus as soon as you do something that allocates memory from user
> space, you may deadlock IMHO.
If you are going to get the firmware from disk (per your alternative 
suggestion), how is that going to help avoid the malloc?

Brad
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-02 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-01 23:16 [linux-usb-devel] Re: hotplugging to deal with firmware download Brad Hards
2002-06-02  5:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02  8:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02 11:11 ` Brad Hards [this message]
2002-06-02 17:16 ` David Brownell
2002-06-02 21:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02 22:21 ` Brad Hards
2002-06-03  4:18 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 17:52 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 21:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 21:55 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:02 ` David Brownell
2002-06-03 22:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 22:35 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:37 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 22:58 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:05 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 23:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:40 ` Greg KH
2002-06-04  8:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-04 19:32 ` David Brownell
2002-06-04 19:44 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 11:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-05 14:19 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 14:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-05 14:54 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 21:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06  0:25 ` David Brownell
2002-06-06  9:04 ` Andries.Brouwer
2002-06-06 12:54 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06 14:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06 17:16 ` David Brownell
2002-06-06 19:19 ` Andries.Brouwer

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