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From: Brad Hards <bhards@bigpond.net.au>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: hotplugging to deal with firmware download
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:21:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-102305666231267@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-102297360623547@msgid-missing>

On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 15:50, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 2. Juni 2002 13:11 schrieb Brad Hards:
> > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 00:44, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > Am Sonntag, 2. Juni 2002 01:16 schrieben Sie:
> > > > On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 02:07, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > > > The problem is that this cannot simply work, because a filesystem
> > > > > may be mounted by nfs.
> > > >
> > > > How is this a problem? You simply need to bring the driver up before
> > > > you remount the nfs filesystem. If you assume that your firmware is
> > > > on that filesystem, then you couldn't have mounted it in the first
> > > > place.
> > > >
> > > > What am I missing here?
> > >
> > > Paging. As soon as user space is running, dirty pages may be written
> > > out And in order to run a user space firmware loader, user space must
> > > be functional, or am I overlooking something?
> >
> > The software support option requires swap to store to, right? That had
> > better be on a local disk, or it doesn't matter whether the firmware is
> > in userspace or not. Realistically, swap over a network block device
> > isn't a problem worth trying to solve.
>
> Not only swap, but any file opened for writing may be written to
> if you allocate memory.
If a file is opened for writing, it doesn't matter whether you allocate memory 
or not, it still may be written to. Sync, journalling, that process dirtying 
more pages, whatever.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-02 22:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-01 23:16 [linux-usb-devel] Re: hotplugging to deal with firmware download Brad Hards
2002-06-02  5:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02  8:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02 11:11 ` Brad Hards
2002-06-02 17:16 ` David Brownell
2002-06-02 21:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02 22:21 ` Brad Hards [this message]
2002-06-03  4:18 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 17:52 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 21:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 21:55 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:02 ` David Brownell
2002-06-03 22:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 22:35 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:37 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 22:58 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:05 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 23:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:40 ` Greg KH
2002-06-04  8:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-04 19:32 ` David Brownell
2002-06-04 19:44 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 11:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-05 14:19 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 14:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-05 14:54 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 21:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06  0:25 ` David Brownell
2002-06-06  9:04 ` Andries.Brouwer
2002-06-06 12:54 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06 14:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06 17:16 ` David Brownell
2002-06-06 19:19 ` Andries.Brouwer

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