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From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.name>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: hotplugging to deal with firmware download
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 22:26:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-102314324029530@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-102297360623547@msgid-missing>


> > > No, this should be done from userspace.
> >
> > Very well then, how ?
> > I see no plan to do it with the present power management system.
>
> I agree.  That's why people are still working on the power management
> system :)

Well, time is not infinite. I doubt the work'll be finished soon enough.

> > The devices are simply assumed to switch from suspended to working
> > in kernel space. Suspended may mean off here.
>
> If "suspended" means off, then the device should start up in the powered
> off state, and re-enumerate as a new usb device on powerup.

That exactly you cannot do. The result is file system corruption,
interfaces assigned wrong adresses, cameras being switched.
You need to retain device<->node correspondences.

> If you _have_ to handle this today, then just leave the firmware within
> the kernel driver, like all of the usb-serial devices have done :)
>
> If you wait a while, the rest of the power management sections of the
> kernel will hopefully come together, allowing the various states of
> shutdown to work properly, and be enumerated by _userspace_ tools.

Shutdown I don't worry about, resumption is anothere matter.

	Regards
		Oliver


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-03 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-01 23:16 [linux-usb-devel] Re: hotplugging to deal with firmware download Brad Hards
2002-06-02  5:50 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02  8:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02 11:11 ` Brad Hards
2002-06-02 17:16 ` David Brownell
2002-06-02 21:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-02 22:21 ` Brad Hards
2002-06-03  4:18 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 17:52 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 21:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 21:55 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:02 ` David Brownell
2002-06-03 22:26 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2002-06-03 22:35 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:37 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 22:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 22:58 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:05 ` Greg KH
2002-06-03 23:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-03 23:40 ` Greg KH
2002-06-04  8:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-04 19:32 ` David Brownell
2002-06-04 19:44 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 11:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-05 14:19 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 14:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-05 14:54 ` David Brownell
2002-06-05 21:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06  0:25 ` David Brownell
2002-06-06  9:04 ` Andries.Brouwer
2002-06-06 12:54 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06 14:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-06-06 17:16 ` David Brownell
2002-06-06 19:19 ` Andries.Brouwer

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