Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Randy Carpenter]

> > Do you mean RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC systems?
> > 
> 
> Yes, it does. Most of the things being merged from UltraPenguin were exactly
> changes to support sparc64.
> It is probably RHs fault not to put that in any kind of
> announcements, at least none of those I saw.

Dang... I would think it would be incredibly good to "support" UltraSparc
machines...  I would certainly have a market for UltraSparc/Linux for my
customers.  They need to have a $39 version though :)  Most of us with
UltraSparcs don't need 'official support' :-)

-Randy

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Jakub Jelinek]

> 
> > > Do you mean RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC systems?
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, it does. Most of the things being merged from UltraPenguin were exactly
> > changes to support sparc64.
> > It is probably RHs fault not to put that in any kind of
> > announcements, at least none of those I saw.
> 
> Dang... I would think it would be incredibly good to "support" UltraSparc
> machines...  

It is supported.

> I would certainly have a market for UltraSparc/Linux for my
> customers.  They need to have a $39 version though :)  Most of us with
> UltraSparcs don't need 'official support' :-)

I guess you have a choice right now. Either you go for the $0 version
(either install from FTP/HTTP or burn your own CD - these two are the only
options in UltraPenguin you had), or you go for a $40 version, or $80
version (I don't know how much does it cost exactly but think I've read
those two numbers for CD sets without/with installation support).

I really don't think it would make any sense to cp -a redhat-6.0 ultrapenguin-1.2
and with the exception of tape install and maybe two or three little other things
everything what was in ultrapenguin is in redhat, plus redhat 6.0 is based on
glibc-2.1 and many things have changed since rh5.2 ultrapenguin-1.1.9 was
forked from.

Cheers,
    Jakub
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Administrator of SunSITE Czech Republic, MFF, Charles University
___________________________________________________________________
UltraLinux  |  http://ultra.linux.cz/  |  http://ultra.penguin.cz/
Linux version 2.2.5 on a sparc64 machine (3958.37 BogoMips)
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Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Randy Carpenter]

> > Dang... I would think it would be incredibly good to "support" UltraSparc
> > machines...  
> 
> It is supported.

I meant from a marketing standpoint:

"Red Hat 6.0 runs on UltraSparc!"

I would think that this would be something worth advertising :)

> I guess you have a choice right now. Either you go for the $0 version
> (either install from FTP/HTTP or burn your own CD - these two are the only
> options in UltraPenguin you had), or you go for a $40 version, or $80
> version (I don't know how much does it cost exactly but think I've read
> those two numbers for CD sets without/with installation support).

They don't have the $40 version for alpha or sparc yet...

> I really don't think it would make any sense to cp -a redhat-6.0 ultrapenguin-1.2
> and with the exception of tape install and maybe two or three little other things
> everything what was in ultrapenguin is in redhat, plus redhat 6.0 is based on
> glibc-2.1 and many things have changed since rh5.2 ultrapenguin-1.1.9 was
> forked from.

Is there still going to be Ultrapenguin 1.2 ?  Based on RH 6.0 ?


thanks,

-Randy

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Nicholas S. Wourms]

I hope that Ultra Linux will continue, in some form, so that we can finally 
get support for some of the sparcs RedHat is not currently supporting in 
6.0 (i.e. sun4/330).  We may be a minority among all sparc users, but we 
are out there.


At 04:09 PM 4/28/99 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>>
>> > > Do you mean RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC systems?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Yes, it does. Most of the things being merged from UltraPenguin were 
>> exactly
>> > changes to support sparc64.
>> > It is probably RHs fault not to put that in any kind of
>> > announcements, at least none of those I saw.
>>
>> Dang... I would think it would be incredibly good to "support" UltraSparc
>> machines...
>
>It is supported.
>
>> I would certainly have a market for UltraSparc/Linux for my
>> customers.  They need to have a $39 version though :)  Most of us with
>> UltraSparcs don't need 'official support' :-)
>
>I guess you have a choice right now. Either you go for the $0 version
>(either install from FTP/HTTP or burn your own CD - these two are the only
>options in UltraPenguin you had), or you go for a $40 version, or $80
>version (I don't know how much does it cost exactly but think I've read
>those two numbers for CD sets without/with installation support).
>
>I really don't think it would make any sense to cp -a redhat-6.0 
>ultrapenguin-1.2
>and with the exception of tape install and maybe two or three little other 
>things
>everything what was in ultrapenguin is in redhat, plus redhat 6.0 is based on
>glibc-2.1 and many things have changed since rh5.2 ultrapenguin-1.1.9 was
>forked from.
>
>Cheers,
>    Jakub
>___________________________________________________________________
>Jakub Jelinek | jj@sunsite.mff.cuni.cz | http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz
>Administrator of SunSITE Czech Republic, MFF, Charles University
>___________________________________________________________________
>UltraLinux  |  http://ultra.linux.cz/  |  http://ultra.penguin.cz/
>Linux version 2.2.5 on a sparc64 machine (3958.37 BogoMips)
>___________________________________________________________________

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[David Miller]

   Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:46:57 -0400 (EDT)
   From: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen@celt.network1.net>

   Is there still going to be Ultrapenguin 1.2 ?  Based on RH 6.0 ?

As stated in my email which started this thread, UltraPenguin is dead
now and is of historical interest only.  User's will benefit more from
Jakub and myself concentrating on one single distribution instead of
multiple ones.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[mc]

Jakub Jelinek wrote:

> >
> > Do you mean RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC systems?
> >
>
> Yes, it does. Most of the things being merged from UltraPenguin were exactly
> changes to support sparc64.

So the previous issues concerning the memory limitations on the AXmp and AXdp
are resolved in RedHat 6.0?  Also has RedHat done any work on peripheral support
for the Ultra line? I do not believe it would be effective to release 6.0
without supporting the newer Sparc Linux peripherals.

Regards,
Michael

>
> It is probably RHs fault not to put that in any kind of
> announcements, at least none of those I saw.
>
> Cheers,
>     Jakub
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Jakub Jelinek | jj@sunsite.mff.cuni.cz | http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz
> Administrator of SunSITE Czech Republic, MFF, Charles University
> ___________________________________________________________________
> UltraLinux  |  http://ultra.linux.cz/  |  http://ultra.penguin.cz/
> Linux version 2.2.5 on a sparc64 machine (3958.37 BogoMips)
> ___________________________________________________________________

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Anton Blanchard]

> I hope that Ultra Linux will continue, in some form, so that we can finally 
> get support for some of the sparcs RedHat is not currently supporting in 
> 6.0 (i.e. sun4/330).  We may be a minority among all sparc users, but we 
> are out there.

Don't worry, I'll be making sure rh6.0 and above runs on 4/300 and when time
permits the other sun4s.

Anton

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[David Miller]

   From: mc@ainsystems.com
   Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:06:16 -0700

   So the previous issues concerning the memory limitations on the
   AXmp

There are no memory limitation on AXmp, we support the maximum
configuration of 2GB and 4 processors, I've had it running here
myself.

   Also has RedHat done any work on peripheral support for the Ultra
   line? I do not believe it would be effective to release 6.0 without
   supporting the newer Sparc Linux peripherals.

There is nothing "newer" than what was shipped in RH6.0, up until the
very last moment fixes were constantly being made up to date in the
release, I made sure of this.

I cannot parse what you are saying though, anything which is supported
in _any_ Sparc/Linux kernel available is supported in RH6.0, what
exactly are you particularly after?

Jakub and myself are still the two people doing any of the work, so if
we've added support for the peripheral, the distributions will have it
as well.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Matthew Kirkwood]

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Anton Blanchard wrote:

> > I hope that Ultra Linux will continue, in some form, so that we can finally
> > get support for some of the sparcs RedHat is not currently supporting in
> > 6.0 (i.e. sun4/330).  We may be a minority among all sparc users, but we
> > are out there.
>
> Don't worry, I'll be making sure rh6.0 and above runs on 4/300 and when
> time permits the other sun4s.

Cool.  Out of curiosity, how hard would it be to make SILO or any of the
other Sparc loaders work on sun4?  My SunOS disk has died, so I can now
only boot via tftp.  (Handy trick for other sun4 people - drop the kernel
image in / on a SunOS partition and then you can "b/vmlinux" instead of
messing around with tftp.)

Matthew.

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[canavan]

[...]
> > I guess you have a choice right now. Either you go for the $0 version
> > (either install from FTP/HTTP or burn your own CD - these two are the
> > only options in UltraPenguin you had), or you go for a $40 version, or
> > $80 version (I don't know how much does it cost exactly but think I've
> > read those two numbers for CD sets without/with installation support).
> 
> They don't have the $40 version for alpha or sparc yet...
[..]

There are other options. CheapBytes is selling Redhat 6.0 Sparc or Alpha CDs
for $4.99 (plus shipping, of course), and there should be other sources to get
'burned' copies of those CDs at similar cost. Try your local Linux user group,
there might be someone with the CDs who's willing to burn them for you, or lend
them to you....

Rainer

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Nils Lohner]

Another option are the Debian sparc and ultrasparc distributions.  Check out 
http://www.debian.org/ports

Nils.

In message <199904281455.HAA24248@piglet.twiddle.net>, David Miller writes:
>   Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:46:57 -0400 (EDT)
>   From: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen@celt.network1.net>
>
>   Is there still going to be Ultrapenguin 1.2 ?  Based on RH 6.0 ?
>
>As stated in my email which started this thread, UltraPenguin is dead
>now and is of historical interest only.  User's will benefit more from
>Jakub and myself concentrating on one single distribution instead of
>multiple ones.
>
>Later,
>David S. Miller
>davem@redhat.com
>

Re: RedHat 6.0 runs on UltraSPARC?

[Bob Van Cleef]

On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Randy Carpenter wrote:

> They don't have the $40 version for alpha or sparc yet...
> 

Watch Cheap Bytes - www.cheapbytes.com - They have it available
pretty soon, and their prices are "competative." :)

Bob
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