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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: John Dorminy <jdorminy@redhat.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Zhang Xiaoxu <zhangxiaoxu5@huawei.com>,
	Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: block: Fix a WRITE SAME BUG_ON
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 21:23:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1ftt9bm5u.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMeeMh85T_qui=LWd0u=b_oMN5XLqowqkvLuYGBM2Ae6tS-mzg@mail.gmail.com> (John Dorminy's message of "Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:08:50 -0500")


John,

>> So disallowing WRITE SAME unless all component devices have the same LBS
>> is the correct fix.
>
> Alternately, could possibly WRITE_SAME bios be accepted with the
> minimum sector size of the stack rather than the max, e.g. 512 in this
> example rather than 4k? They'd need to have a granularity of the
> larger sector size, though, presumabily necessitating new queue limits
> write_same_{granularity,block_size}, which might be too much work.

I don't have a problem restricting the buffer contents to be consistent
within a page. Or even change the upper layer semantics to specify the
buffer contents using a single byte (0x00..0xff).

But the issue of head and tail remains if there is a block size mismatch
so it's important that we keep scaling the logical block size up when
stacking and reject any bio that can't be honored on a 4Kn device.

> (I use WRITE_SAME to fill devices with a particular pattern in order
> to catch failures to initialize disk structures appropriately,
> personally, but it's just for convenience/speed.)

The intent was for stuff like MD to use it to initialize parity disks,
etc. But adoption has been pretty slow.

I don't have any problems keeping WRITE_SAME around if people are
actually using it. It just seemed like most active users only cared
about writing zeroes.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: John Dorminy <jdorminy@redhat.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Zhang Xiaoxu <zhangxiaoxu5@huawei.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: block: Fix a WRITE SAME BUG_ON
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 21:23:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1ftt9bm5u.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMeeMh85T_qui=LWd0u=b_oMN5XLqowqkvLuYGBM2Ae6tS-mzg@mail.gmail.com> (John Dorminy's message of "Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:08:50 -0500")


John,

>> So disallowing WRITE SAME unless all component devices have the same LBS
>> is the correct fix.
>
> Alternately, could possibly WRITE_SAME bios be accepted with the
> minimum sector size of the stack rather than the max, e.g. 512 in this
> example rather than 4k? They'd need to have a granularity of the
> larger sector size, though, presumabily necessitating new queue limits
> write_same_{granularity,block_size}, which might be too much work.

I don't have a problem restricting the buffer contents to be consistent
within a page. Or even change the upper layer semantics to specify the
buffer contents using a single byte (0x00..0xff).

But the issue of head and tail remains if there is a block size mismatch
so it's important that we keep scaling the logical block size up when
stacking and reject any bio that can't be honored on a 4Kn device.

> (I use WRITE_SAME to fill devices with a particular pattern in order
> to catch failures to initialize disk structures appropriately,
> personally, but it's just for convenience/speed.)

The intent was for stuff like MD to use it to initialize parity disks,
etc. But adoption has been pretty slow.

I don't have any problems keeping WRITE_SAME around if people are
actually using it. It just seemed like most active users only cared
about writing zeroes.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-31  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-25  2:11 [v2] block: Fix a WRITE SAME BUG_ON Zhang Xiaoxu
2019-01-26 11:17 ` John Dorminy
2019-01-26 11:17   ` [dm-devel] " John Dorminy
2019-01-28  5:48   ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-01-28  5:48     ` [dm-devel] " zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-01-28 22:14   ` Mike Snitzer
2019-01-28 22:14     ` Mike Snitzer
2019-01-29  4:54     ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-01-29  4:54       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-01-29  8:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-29  8:52         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30  6:50         ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-01-30  6:50           ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-01-30 14:08       ` John Dorminy
2019-01-30 14:08         ` John Dorminy
2019-01-31  0:58         ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-01-31  0:58           ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-01-31  2:23         ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2019-01-31  2:23           ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-01-31 10:39         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 10:39           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 19:41           ` John Dorminy
2019-01-31 19:41             ` John Dorminy
2019-02-01  7:35             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-01  7:35               ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-01 14:09               ` John Dorminy
2019-02-01 14:09                 ` John Dorminy
2019-02-01 16:03                 ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2019-02-01 16:03                   ` [dm-devel] " Heinz Mauelshagen
2019-02-01 16:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-01 16:18                     ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-12  3:11                     ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-02-12  3:11                       ` [dm-devel] " zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-02-14  2:31                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-02-14  2:31                         ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2019-02-14  9:36                         ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-02-14  9:36                           ` [dm-devel] " zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-02-18 14:10                           ` zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-02-18 14:10                             ` [dm-devel] " zhangxiaoxu (A)
2019-02-19 23:10                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-02-19 23:10                               ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen

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