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From: Manuel Jander <manuel.jander@usm.cl>
To: Raymond <rayau@netvigator.com>,
	alsa-devel <alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: au88x0_synth
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:34:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1111674841.3353.11.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <423CCDAC.80401@netvigator.com>

Hi Raymond,

On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 09:11 +0800, Raymond wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > > Lee Revell wrote:
> > > Looks like this chipset has a wavetable synth.  And I noticed some
> > > references to a driver on the openvortex list.  Would it be possible 
> > > for ALSA to support it?
> 
> > Manuel Jander wrote:
> >  Of course, but there are some unresolved hardware issues. The
> >  WaveTable helper hardware is very similar to the trident
> >  Wavetable helper hardware. It does not interpret MIDI directly, but
> >  at least does some effect processing in hardware.
> 
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6004190
> 
> 1) Is the Trident Wavetable working ?

No idea. I don't have one. I just looked at the datasheet of the trident
4DX chip and found very similar to the aureal chip, when looking at the
big picture.

> http://www.alsa-project.org/~iwai/writing-an-alsa-driver/x84.htm
> 
> There is no Makefile inside /alsa-kernel/Documentation/Docbook

> 4)  In addition to the callback functions used in Midi sequencer
> interface, what other functions/modules will the wavetable synth (kernel 
> client) need to be implmemented ?
> 
> static snd_midi_op_t vortex_midi_ops = {
> 	snd_vortex_note_on,
> 	snd_vortex_note_off,
> 	snd_vortex_key_press,
> 	snd_vortex_terminate_note,
> 	snd_vortex_control,
> 	snd_vortex_nrpn,
> 	snd_vortex_sysex,
> };

We need the WT engine working. The rest is just a matter of writing the
glue code (pretty straitforward).

> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/alsa/alsa-utils/seq/

> Refer to http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/archive/week16.htm
> (iii) OPL3 Support: Both Windows DOS boxes and real-mode DOS now support
> 4-operator OPL3 FM synthesis, in addition to 2-operator OPL2 FM synthesis.
> 
> 6) Do au88x0 support OPL3 ?

No. It supports some memory registers to aid software emulation, but
there is no real OPL hardware onboard the aureal chips.

> The "vortexcontrol" use alsa-lib API to play the audio
> samples inside au30gm.arl through hw:0,0.

Thats because its just for hearing a sample. Its not even close to what
has to be done for a Wavetable implementation. The higher level arl
soundbank interpreter is very valuable, but on the hardware side we are
missing the WT engine support.

> 7) How can the audio sample be played within the driver using the
>   soundfont through hw:0,0 in a 16 voice synth for au8810 (without WT) ?

The au8810 does not have the WT engine, so wavetable synthesis has to be
done with software emulation, and feeding the resulting audio into a
dedicated ADB PCM channel.

Best Regards,
-- 
Manuel Jander
Electronic Engineer



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-24 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-20  1:11 au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-03-21 20:00 ` au88x0_synth Takashi Iwai
2005-03-30  8:04   ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-03-30  8:09     ` au88x0_synth Clemens Ladisch
2005-04-12 14:14       ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-04-14 15:31       ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-04-15 13:07         ` au88x0_synth Takashi Iwai
2005-04-19  8:39           ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-04-19  9:39             ` au88x0_synth Takashi Iwai
2005-04-20  9:33               ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-05-07 12:27               ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-03-30  8:13     ` au88x0_synth Alien
2005-03-30 10:08       ` Takashi Iwai
2005-03-30 10:21         ` Alien
2005-03-30 10:27           ` Takashi Iwai
2005-04-23  4:04       ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-04-23  7:28         ` au88x0_synth Alien
2005-04-28 10:21           ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-05-13 14:05           ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-05-13 14:27             ` au88x0_synth Alien
2005-05-14  8:12               ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-05-15 12:41                 ` au88x0_synth Alien
2005-06-06  2:56                   ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-06-06  8:49                     ` au88x0_synth Alien
2005-06-06  8:56                       ` Suspicious Attachment phiber
2005-06-06 11:03                       ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-06-06 14:35                         ` au88x0_synth Alien
2005-06-07 13:44                           ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-06-07 15:03                             ` au88x0_synth Alien
2005-03-31 22:52     ` au88x0_synth Manuel Jander
2005-07-01 13:42   ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-03-24 14:34 ` Manuel Jander [this message]
2005-03-31  9:23   ` au88x0_synth Raymond
2005-03-31 10:40     ` au88x0_synth Clemens Ladisch

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