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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
@ 2008-03-10 22:22 Bob Tracy
  2008-03-10 22:33 ` Rene Herman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bob Tracy @ 2008-03-10 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rene Herman
  Cc: Takashi Iwai, Bob Tracy, ALSA devel, Michael Cree, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha

Rene Herman wrote:
> Bob? How short are "short" wav files by the way?

The one I was using for testing is 50,272 bytes.  A slightly longer file
that exhibits "more exotic" looping behavior is 97,898 bytes (just a bit
over 6 seconds of audio).  I'll send you the shorter file under separate
cover.

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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
@ 2008-03-11 15:17 Rene Herman
  2008-03-11 18:08 ` Bob Tracy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Rene Herman @ 2008-03-11 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bob Tracy
  Cc: Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel, Michael Cree, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt

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On 11-03-08 15:07, Bob Tracy wrote:

> Both native ALSA and emulated OSS playback are broken based on last 
> night's testing.  Just to rule out sound hardware issues, this morning I
> built a 2.6.25-rc4 kernel with OSS (sb driver), and that seems to be 
> working fine.

Okay... From your testing report:

>> $ sox foo.wav -t alsa default
> 
> Playback results in infinite loop over the first quarter second or so
> of audio.  Using "aplay" results in same looping behavior over a longer
> segment of audio -- maybe a half second.

This is behaviour consistent with the IRQ being dead ...

>> > $ sox foo.wav -t ossdsp /dev/dsp
> 
> Identical results to using "play" (as expected): for the 50K ".wav"
> file, I hear the entire file approx. 1.8 times.

... and this isn't. Worse yet, we have a conflicting report from Michael 
where things are fine while using aplay and I'm seeing nothing particularly 
suspicious recently. I suppose it used to work and I suppose the behaviour 
you are describing above is 100% repeatable?

Given that you can use aplay -- probably no difference with "aplay -M" ?

To get to the bottom of this we might need to get a specific failed version 
(for readers, it's not been verified that this is a regression since 2.6.24) 
but we can try to get lucky first.

The most recent change to sound/isa/es18xx.c that's not utterly impossible 
to have made a difference is 1bc9eed379399484d3f5d5a0834674983969bc1, 
"es18xx: Enable wavetable input from ESS chips". I don't know if you're a 
GIT user. If you are, you can revert it simply with

$ git revert 1bc9eed3

If you're not a GIT user, applying the attached should work. Unlikely, but 
as said, we can try.

> I tried a few rmmod/insmod cycles with different values for dma2.
> Results as follows:
> 
> (a) dma2=1 (== dma1): no change
> (b) dma2 option omitted : no change
> (c) dma2=-1 : probe failed

Okay. A and B seem to at least confirm it's not the 16-bit DMA.

Rene.

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commit 8fa1de6349913b63d8ebfb27003b7045eeb9f12a
Author: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
Date:   Tue Mar 11 15:52:36 2008 +0100

    Revert "[ALSA] es18xx: Enable wavetable input from ESS chips"
    
    This reverts commit 1bc9eed379399484d3f5d5a0834674983969bc1e.

diff --git a/sound/isa/es18xx.c b/sound/isa/es18xx.c
index 90498e4..865ab1d 100644
--- a/sound/isa/es18xx.c
+++ b/sound/isa/es18xx.c
@@ -1441,8 +1441,6 @@ static int __devinit snd_es18xx_initialize(struct snd_es18xx *chip)
 		snd_es18xx_write(chip, 0xB2, 0x50);
 		/* Enable MPU and hardware volume interrupt */
 		snd_es18xx_mixer_write(chip, 0x64, 0x42);
-		/* Enable ESS wavetable input */
-		snd_es18xx_mixer_bits(chip, 0x48, 0x10, 0x10);
 	}
 	else {
 		int irqmask, dma1mask, dma2mask;

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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
  2008-03-11 18:08 ` Bob Tracy
@ 2008-03-11 20:00 Michael Cree
  2008-03-12 14:40 ` Bob Tracy
  -1 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Michael Cree @ 2008-03-11 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bob Tracy
  Cc: Rene Herman, Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt

On 12/03/2008, at 7:08 AM, Bob Tracy wrote:

> Rene Herman wrote:
>> This is behaviour consistent with the IRQ being dead ...
>>
>> I suppose it used to work and I suppose the behaviour
>> you are describing above is 100% repeatable?
>
> I can't tell you exactly *when* it used to work, or even *if* it did
> with 2.6 kernels.  I'll try to explain...
>
> Sometime back in the 2.6.14 to 2.6.16 timeframe there was an issue  
> with
> the ALSA driver not recognizing interrupts (causing looping)

Yes, the ESS1888 driver failed to work on Alpha about the 2.6.14 to  
2.6.16 kernel.   It came right with alsa release 1.0.13 (IIRC) and I  
have been running the ESS1888 driver on an Alpha XP1000 without  
problems for about a year.  I have been using mocp and mplayer on a  
fairly regular basis.  My Mplayer version uses the OSS interface by  
default.  Not sure, off-hand, what mocp is using.

For the last three months I have been playing with other sound cards  
(the quality of sound from the ESS1888 leaves a lot to be desired,  
imho) and haven't used the ESS1888 recently, so if a regression has  
been introduced after kernel 2.6.22 then it is likely I wouldn't see it.

Sorry, but I am not in a good position to do testing of the ESS1888 at  
the moment.  A week or so ago my system and home partitions shat  
themselves and I had to reinstall from 3 month old backups.  It has  
just happened again - two nights ago.  Don't know what is causing it -  
whether it is hardware fault (I can't find any disc block errors), the  
2.6.24.2 (and 2.6.24.3) kernels I had recently upgraded to, or the  
recent update from Debian testing, or the switch from the internal  
SCSI card and disc to an installed SATA card and disc that I did three  
months ago (though that one has worked for the first two and a half  
months without flaw).  Maybe I should start a new thread with a report  
of that just in case it is a kernel problem???

Michael.


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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
  2008-03-12 19:34   ` Rene Herman
@ 2008-03-12 20:31 Bob Tracy
  2008-03-12 21:12 ` Rene Herman
  -1 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bob Tracy @ 2008-03-12 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rene Herman
  Cc: Bob Tracy, Michael Cree, Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt

Rene Herman wrote:
> (Re: interrupts not being seen by es18xx)
> That is indeed what it soundeed like, or the first bit at least.
> 
> What does cat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_ALPHA_ say? Miuchael, and for 
> you? For some Alpha configs, arch/alpha/kernel/es1888.c is compiled and for 
> some not. I expect for you (Bob) it's compiled in? And Michael?

Here is the requested list of CONFIG_ALPHA_* items for the
2.6.25-rc4+iommu_patch kernel with support for snd-es18xx and snd-sb8:

CONFIG_ALPHA=y
CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA=y
CONFIG_ALPHA_EV5=y
CONFIG_ALPHA_CIA=y
CONFIG_ALPHA_EV56=y
CONFIG_ALPHA_PYXIS=y
CONFIG_ALPHA_SRM=y
CONFIG_ALPHA_LEGACY_START_ADDRESS=y

>From arch/alpha/kernel/Makefile, obj-${CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA} adds es1888.o
as a built-in object, so yes, it's built-in.

I never noticed the init support for the ES1888 chip before...  The code
appears to set up DMA channel 1, but does not mention anything about the
second 16-bit DMA channel.

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rct@frus.com       |   get all the bugs out." - Steve McGrew on /.
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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
  2008-03-12 21:12 ` Rene Herman
@ 2008-03-14 13:13 Bob Tracy
  2008-03-15  1:18 ` Tyson Whitehead
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bob Tracy @ 2008-03-14 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rene Herman
  Cc: Bob Tracy, Michael Cree, Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt, twhitehe

Rene Herman wrote:
> Okay, and applying the attached just makes your sound completely dead in the 
> water?
> (patch to remove es1888_init from a Miata build omitted)

A quick followup...  Since we're in agreement this isn't a regression,
I've updated my working source tree to 2.6.25-rc5.  Built the new
kernel with the patch to omit es1888_init(), and as near as I can tell,
that function does nothing useful on the Miata platform.  At the very
least, not having it makes no difference to any of the ALSA drivers I've
tried: snd-sb8 still works great, and snd-es18xx is still broken in the
same way originally described at the beginning of this long thread.

I'll try a build with the old OSS "sb" driver, and if that works ok, we
may be able to do away with es1888_init() on the Miata.  Tyson -- I
think you have a Miata if I'm remembering correctly: can you confirm
these observations?

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rct@frus.com       |   get all the bugs out." - Steve McGrew on /.
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* Re: [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
@ 2008-03-14 23:33 Bob Tracy
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bob Tracy @ 2008-03-14 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: twhitehe
  Cc: ALSA devel, Michael Cree, Krzysztof Helt, Takashi Iwai,
	Rene Herman, linux-kernel, Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha,
	Bob Tracy

rct wrote:
> Rene Herman wrote:
> > Okay, and applying the attached just makes your sound completely dead in the 
> > water?
> > (patch to remove es1888_init from a Miata build omitted)
> 
> I'll try a build with the old OSS "sb" driver, and if that works ok, we
> may be able to do away with es1888_init() on the Miata.  Tyson -- I
> think you have a Miata if I'm remembering correctly: can you confirm
> these observations?

Quick followup: OSS "sb" driver works fine without es1888_init().

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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
  2008-03-17 22:00     ` Rene Herman
@ 2008-03-18  3:24 Bob Tracy
  2008-03-18  3:54 ` Michael Cree
  -1 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bob Tracy @ 2008-03-18  3:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rene Herman
  Cc: Bob Tracy, Michael Cree, Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt

I'll try the below when I get back from my business trip (in approx.
two weeks).  Apologies for the inconvenience, but the Alpha hardly
qualifies as a laptop :-).  If someone else with a Miata (or other
Alpha with the ES1888 sound device) cares to give this a try, I *will*
be keeping up with my e-mail.

--Bob

Rene Herman wrote:
> Okay, thought I'd stare at this thing a bit -- there's no specific 1888 
> documentation available it seems but I did notice something in the 1878 
> datasheet which might mean something. The docs says that bits 0-1 are don't 
> care for DMA but don't for IRQ, so could it possibly be as simple as the 
> attached?
> 
> 1878 sheet doesn't document register 0x7f, it seems...
> 
> Assuming it's not just this, this thing is going to require quite a bit of 
> trial and error and without the hardware this will be troublesome. I expect 
> this is not it, since the arch init code also doesn't care about bit 0 when 
> setting that same register for IRQ 5.
> 
> If this is not it -- I'd try s/0x50/0x10/ in that line, even completely 
> commenting out the IRQ setting line (with the arch code built in) and just 
> generally frolic around 'till something blows up...
> 
> Rene.
> 

> diff --git a/sound/isa/es18xx.c b/sound/isa/es18xx.c
> index 90498e4..71d1b96 100644
> --- a/sound/isa/es18xx.c
> +++ b/sound/isa/es18xx.c
> @@ -1449,16 +1449,16 @@ static int __devinit snd_es18xx_initialize(struct snd_es18xx *chip)
>  		switch (chip->irq) {
>  		case 2:
>  		case 9:
> -			irqmask = 0;
> +			irqmask = 0x0;
>  			break;
>  		case 5:
> -			irqmask = 1;
> +			irqmask = 0x5;
>  			break;
>  		case 7:
> -			irqmask = 2;
> +			irqmask = 0xa;
>  			break;
>  		case 10:
> -			irqmask = 3;
> +			irqmask = 0xf;
>  			break;
>  		default:
>  			snd_printk(KERN_ERR "invalid irq %d\n", chip->irq);
> @@ -1497,7 +1497,7 @@ static int __devinit snd_es18xx_initialize(struct snd_es18xx *chip)
>  		}
>  
>  		/* Enable and set Audio 1 IRQ */
> -		snd_es18xx_write(chip, 0xB1, 0x50 | (irqmask << 2));
> +		snd_es18xx_write(chip, 0xB1, 0x50 | irqmask);
>  		/* Enable and set Audio 1 DMA */
>  		snd_es18xx_write(chip, 0xB2, 0x50 | (dma1mask << 2));
>  		/* Set Audio 2 DMA */
> @@ -1513,7 +1513,9 @@ static int __devinit snd_es18xx_initialize(struct snd_es18xx *chip)
>  			   FM enabled */
>  			snd_es18xx_mixer_write(chip, 0x40, 0x43 | (chip->mpu_port & 0xf0) >> 1);
>  		}
> +#if 0
>  		snd_es18xx_mixer_write(chip, 0x7f, ((irqmask + 1) << 1) | 0x01);
> +#endif
>  	}
>  	if (chip->caps & ES18XX_NEW_RATE) {
>  		/* Change behaviour of register A1

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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
@ 2008-03-30 21:11 Michael Cree
  2008-03-30 21:18 ` Bob Tracy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Michael Cree @ 2008-03-30 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bob Tracy
  Cc: Rene Herman, Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt

Bob
>> (miata_no_mmap.diff patch)
>
> Made no difference for any of the "sox" tests, and "play" is still
> broken in the way it always has been.  However, "aplay" generated an
> interesting error I haven't seen before:
>
> $ aplay asskickd.wav
> Playing WAVE 'asskickd.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 11025 Hz, Mono
> ALSA lib pcm_plug.c:773:(snd_pcm_plug_hw_refine_schange) Unable to  
> find an usable access for 'default'
> aplay: aplay.c:919: set_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed.

Add in the "-D hw" option to the aplay command when using the mmap  
disabled alsa sound.

Michael.


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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
@ 2008-04-01 19:07 Rene Herman
  2008-04-01 20:32 ` Bob Tracy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Rene Herman @ 2008-04-01 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tyson Whitehead
  Cc: Bob Tracy, Michael Cree, Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel, linux-kernel,
	Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt

On 01-04-08 20:34, Rene Herman wrote:

> On 01-04-08 20:07, Tyson Whitehead wrote:
> 
>> Hope this helps.
> 
> Not really no.

Sorry for the multiple copies; my ISP is crashing again.

Rene.

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* Re: [alsa-devel] [regression] 2.6.25-rc4 snd-es18xx broken on Alpha
@ 2008-04-01 20:26 Bob Tracy
  2008-04-01 21:02 ` Michael Cree
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bob Tracy @ 2008-04-01 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tyson Whitehead
  Cc: Bob Tracy, Rene Herman, Michael Cree, Takashi Iwai, ALSA devel,
	linux-kernel, Ivan Kokshaysky, linux-alpha, Krzysztof Helt

Tyson Whitehead wrote:
> Okay.  I finally got everything tested on my Miata.  Unless I missed 
> something, the es1888_init routine only gets compiled in with 
> CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA.

The current arch/alpha/kernel/Makefile build logic shows es1888.o built
as part of CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC, but if that option isn't enabled, then
enabling any of the following configuration options will cause es1888.o
to be built:

CONFIG_ALPHA_DP264
CONFIG_ALPHA_SHARK
CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA

> As I've been using the debian generic kernel (i.e., 
> CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC), I have never relied on this routine for anything.
> 
> I did discover, however, when I compiled my own kernel (2.6.25-rc5) with 
> CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA, things stopped working.  Specifically, I no longer 
> got any interupts (with or without the es1888_init patch and with or 
> without the alternative es188xx interupt patch) associated with either 
> the builtin sound card (es1888) or the IDE controller (CMD646).

Interesting.  I *seldom* use the Debian generic kernel.  It's available,
and I install updated versions when they are released, but all of my
testing has been with kernels built from the standard kernel.org sources
with CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA enabled.

> With CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC I only get one interupt with the es18xx driver 
> unless I applied to "alternative interupt" handling code.  Further, 
> sometime between 2.6.14 and 2.6.16, mpg321 (using the alsa driver) 
> started generating "Bad page state in process 'mpg321' ... Trying to fix 
> it up, but a reboot is needed" kernel messages.

This is consistent with what I remember you reporting when we were
looking at this back in the 2.6.14 timeframe.  I was reporting the "bad
page state" problems with 2.6.22-rc6 and -rc7.  In my case, the trigger
was a different application, but only happened when snd_es18xx was
loaded.  Hugh Dickins suggested it was a regression introduced in
2.6.15 that I had managed to successfully avoid tripping on :-).  The
analysis went something like this:

sound/isa/es18xx.c:
	snd_pcm_lib_preallocate_pages_for_all(pcm, SNDRV_DMA_TYPE_DEV, ...
led us to sound/core/memalloc.c:
	res = dma_alloc_coherent(dev, PAGE_SIZE << pg, dma, gfp_flags);
where __GFP_COMP was carefully included in gfp_flags to avoid the
kinds of problems I was seeing (replacing the pre-2.6.15 use of
PageReserved).

Hugh said we could blame him or Nick for removing the special
PageReserved usage, or the Alpha for ignoring gfp_flags in the
following:

  #define dma_alloc_coherent(dev, size, addr, gfp)      \
                pci_alloc_consistent(alpha_gendev_to_pci(dev), size, addr)

The workaround (until the official patch was issued) was a small patch
against arch/alpha/kernel/pci_iommu.c:pci_alloc_consistent() that
replaced "gfp_t gfp = GFP_ATOMIC;" with "gfp_t gfp = GFP_ATOMIC|__GFP_COMP;".
That eliminated the "bad page state" errors for me, and I don't recall
what the official patch was.

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rct@frus.com       |   get all the bugs out." - Steve McGrew on /.
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