From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Daniel Baluta <daniel.baluta@gmail.com>,
andriy.shevchenko@intel.com, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com,
vkoul@kernel.org, sound-open-firmware@alsa-project.org,
Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Sound-open-firmware] [PATCH v4 01/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware driver core
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:32:54 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d92700ef-4975-fd8b-c93b-b699f65781b1@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190220162645.GB9878@sirena.org.uk>
On 2/20/19 10:26 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 08:35:16AM -0600, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>
>> I see your point and agree the current direction isn't scalable, but I am
>> not sure about the definition of 'first class device'.
>> Did you mean 'component' at the same level as the 'platforms' and 'codecs',
>> with all the DSP stuff nicely packaged and maintained in a self-contained
>> way?
>> Or a subcomponent that might be part of those platforms and codecs?
> As far as I can see for the Intel systems it's looking like a first
> class component - there will be some systems where the DSP is embedded
> in something (like the big CODECs) but even there it's easier as it's
> contained within the device rather than affecting multiple devices which
> is the big issue here.
Sorry Mark, I am struggling with the 'first class' idea.
Allow me to go back to the practical issue we faced here, and
maybe/hopefully this will help us converge on a consensus.
The only reason for extending the struct snd_soc_pcm_runtime was to
enable the use of a 'context' in PCM operations, see e.g in patch 5/14
the repeated pattern to get an 'SOF PCM' context:
struct snd_sof_pcm *spcm = rtd->private;
Managing a context for PCM ops is typically done in other drivers by
using the substream->private_data aka snd_pcm_substream_chip(substream).
In ASoC/DPCM, unfortunately this substream->private_data field was
reclaimed to store a pointer to a 'struct snd_soc_pcm_runtime', see e.g.
in soc-pcm.c:
pcm->private_data = rtd;
if (playback)
pcm->streams[SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK].substream->private_data = rtd;
if (capture)
pcm->streams[SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE].substream->private_data = rtd;
So ironically in ASoC we don't have a means to use a private_data field
for the substreams since it's used for a 'standard' mechanism.
The extension suggested in this patch 1/14 was really trying to come
back to a practical means to store a context in a substream, and make
the PCM operations manageable. I totally agree that extending the PCM
runtime might not recommended or safe, but at this point I don't have
any slack in the existing data structures to add a context in a substream.
Does this help clarify the problem statement?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-20 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-13 22:07 [PATCH v4 00/14] ASoC: Sound Open Firmware (SOF) core Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware driver core Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 9:25 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 14:53 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-19 15:38 ` Mark Brown
2019-02-20 14:35 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-20 16:26 ` Mark Brown
2019-02-20 21:32 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2019-02-21 18:47 ` Mark Brown
2019-02-22 0:08 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware KControl support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 9:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 14:35 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 15:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] ASoC: SOF: Add driver debug support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] ASoC: SOF: Add support for IPC IO between DSP and Host Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 11:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 14:56 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-20 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] ASoC: SOF: Add PCM operations support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 11:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 15:07 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 20:42 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-18 15:51 ` Daniel Baluta
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] ASoC: SOF: Add support for loading topologies Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] ASoC: SOF: Add DSP firmware logger support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 15:13 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-20 17:44 ` Mark Brown
2019-02-20 20:18 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 12:29 ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-02-21 14:57 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 15:04 ` Mark Brown
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] ASoC: SOF: Add DSP HW abstraction operations Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 15:22 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:45 ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-02-14 15:21 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] ASoC: SOF: Add firmware loader support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] ASoC: SOF: Add userspace ABI support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] ASoC: SOF: Add PM support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Nocodec machine driver support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] ASoC: SOF: Add xtensa support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] ASoC: SOF: Add utils Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:33 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 13:37 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-18 20:03 ` [v4,00/14] ASoC: Sound Open Firmware (SOF) core Xiang Xiao
2019-02-19 9:49 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2019-02-19 15:09 ` xiang xiao
2019-02-19 15:55 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 4:39 ` Vinod Koul
2019-02-21 10:42 ` Arnaud Pouliquen
2019-02-21 11:28 ` Mark Brown
2019-02-21 23:49 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 15:27 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-22 8:32 ` xiang xiao
2019-02-22 11:15 ` Keyon Jie
2019-02-22 18:21 ` xiang xiao
2019-02-25 3:05 ` [Sound-open-firmware] [v4, 00/14] " Keyon Jie
2019-02-22 14:48 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-22 18:41 ` xiang xiao
2019-02-22 21:52 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-23 16:42 ` xiang xiao
2019-02-25 10:16 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
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