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From: Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@suse.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	martin.lau@kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 bpf-next 07/17] bpf: improve deduction of 64-bit bounds from 32-bit bounds
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 11:43:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZURripAb6Y885q7e@u94a> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZZnPMO1z66vFWtxt=jQH4AFFSDkONwNLS6OSM9EZ_eZg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:17:33AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 7:40 AM Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 08:37:49PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > > Add a few interesting cases in which we can tighten 64-bit bounds based
> > > on newly learnt information about 32-bit bounds. E.g., when full u64/s64
> > > registers are used in BPF program, and then eventually compared as
> > > u32/s32. The latter comparison doesn't change the value of full
> > > register, but it does impose new restrictions on possible lower 32 bits
> > > of such full registers. And we can use that to derive additional full
> > > register bounds information.
> > >
> > > Acked-by: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
> >
> > Acked-by: Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@suse.com>
> >
> > One question below
> >
> > > ---
> > >  kernel/bpf/verifier.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 44 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > > index 08888784cbc8..d0d0a1a1b662 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > > @@ -2536,10 +2536,54 @@ static void __reg64_deduce_bounds(struct bpf_reg_state *reg)
> > >       }
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +static void __reg_deduce_mixed_bounds(struct bpf_reg_state *reg)
> > > +{
> > > +     /* Try to tighten 64-bit bounds from 32-bit knowledge, using 32-bit
> > > +      * values on both sides of 64-bit range in hope to have tigher range.
> > > +      * E.g., if r1 is [0x1'00000000, 0x3'80000000], and we learn from
> > > +      * 32-bit signed > 0 operation that s32 bounds are now [1; 0x7fffffff].
> > > +      * With this, we can substitute 1 as low 32-bits of _low_ 64-bit bound
> > > +      * (0x100000000 -> 0x100000001) and 0x7fffffff as low 32-bits of
> > > +      * _high_ 64-bit bound (0x380000000 -> 0x37fffffff) and arrive at a
> > > +      * better overall bounds for r1 as [0x1'000000001; 0x3'7fffffff].
> > > +      * We just need to make sure that derived bounds we are intersecting
> > > +      * with are well-formed ranges in respecitve s64 or u64 domain, just
> > > +      * like we do with similar kinds of 32-to-64 or 64-to-32 adjustments.
> > > +      */
> > > +     __u64 new_umin, new_umax;
> > > +     __s64 new_smin, new_smax;
> > > +
> > > +     /* u32 -> u64 tightening, it's always well-formed */
> > > +     new_umin = (reg->umin_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | reg->u32_min_value;
> > > +     new_umax = (reg->umax_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | reg->u32_max_value;
> > > +     reg->umin_value = max_t(u64, reg->umin_value, new_umin);
> > > +     reg->umax_value = min_t(u64, reg->umax_value, new_umax);
> > > +     /* u32 -> s64 tightening, u32 range embedded into s64 preserves range validity */
> > > +     new_smin = (reg->smin_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | reg->u32_min_value;
> > > +     new_smax = (reg->smax_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | reg->u32_max_value;
> > > +     reg->smin_value = max_t(s64, reg->smin_value, new_smin);
> > > +     reg->smax_value = min_t(s64, reg->smax_value, new_smax);
> > > +
> > > +     /* if s32 can be treated as valid u32 range, we can use it as well */
> > > +     if ((u32)reg->s32_min_value <= (u32)reg->s32_max_value) {
> > > +             /* s32 -> u64 tightening */
> > > +             new_umin = (reg->umin_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | (u32)reg->s32_min_value;
> > > +             new_umax = (reg->umax_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | (u32)reg->s32_max_value;
> > > +             reg->umin_value = max_t(u64, reg->umin_value, new_umin);
> > > +             reg->umax_value = min_t(u64, reg->umax_value, new_umax);
> > > +             /* s32 -> s64 tightening */
> > > +             new_smin = (reg->smin_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | (u32)reg->s32_min_value;
> > > +             new_smax = (reg->smax_value & ~0xffffffffULL) | (u32)reg->s32_max_value;
> > > +             reg->smin_value = max_t(s64, reg->smin_value, new_smin);
> > > +             reg->smax_value = min_t(s64, reg->smax_value, new_smax);
> > > +     }
> > > +}
> > > +
> >
> > Guess this might be something you've considered already, but I think it
> > won't hurt to ask:
> >
> > All verifier.c patches up to till this point all use a lot of
> >
> >         reg->min_value = max_t(typeof(reg->min_value), reg->min_value, new_min);
> >         reg->max_value = min_t(typeof(reg->max_value), reg->max_value, new_max);
> >
> > where min_value/max_value is one of umin, smin, u32, or s32. Could we
> > refactor those out with some form of
> >
> >         reg_bounds_intersect(reg, new_min, new_max)
> >
> > The point of this is not really about reducing the line of code, but to
> > reduce the cognitive load of juggling all the min_t and max_t. With
> > something reg_bounds_intersect() we only need to check that
> > new_min/new_max pair is valid and trust the macro/function itself to
> > handle the rest correctly.
> 
> Yes, I thought about that. And it should be doable with macro and a
> bunch of refactoring. I decided to leave it to future follow ups, as
> there is already plenty of refactoring happing.

Yeah sounds fair to leave it out of this patchset. Thanks for going
through the reasoning.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-03  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-02  3:37 [PATCH v6 bpf-next 00/17] BPF register bounds logic and testing improvements Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 01/17] selftests/bpf: fix RELEASE=1 build for tc_opts Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 02/17] selftests/bpf: satisfy compiler by having explicit return in btf test Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 03/17] bpf: derive smin/smax from umin/max bounds Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 04/17] bpf: derive smin32/smax32 from umin32/umax32 bounds Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 05/17] bpf: derive subreg bounds from full bounds when upper 32 bits are constant Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 06/17] bpf: add special smin32/smax32 derivation from 64-bit bounds Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 07/17] bpf: improve deduction of 64-bit bounds from 32-bit bounds Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02 14:39   ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2023-11-02 16:17     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-03  3:43       ` Shung-Hsi Yu [this message]
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 08/17] bpf: try harder to deduce register bounds from different numeric domains Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 09/17] bpf: drop knowledge-losing __reg_combine_{32,64}_into_{64,32} logic Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02 15:14   ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 10/17] selftests/bpf: BPF register range bounds tester Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 11/17] bpf: rename is_branch_taken reg arguments to prepare for the second one Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02 15:15   ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 12/17] bpf: generalize is_branch_taken() to work with two registers Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02 15:19   ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 13/17] bpf: move is_branch_taken() down Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 14/17] bpf: generalize is_branch_taken to handle all conditional jumps in one place Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 15/17] bpf: unify 32-bit and 64-bit is_branch_taken logic Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 16/17] bpf: prepare reg_set_min_max for second set of registers Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  3:37 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 17/17] bpf: generalize reg_set_min_max() to handle two sets of two registers Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02 16:10 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 00/17] BPF register bounds logic and testing improvements patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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