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From: Lion Ackermann <nnamrec@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: filter: remove dead instructions in filter code
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 08:24:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa2e2b6f-5db8-4ef9-bad9-dddf699afae5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+ip7yB-8deWjHNBQxZHhV1Xi-5gTiYJVRy4gU5+Chkqw@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/10/25 5:05 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 1:32 AM Lion Ackermann <nnamrec@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is well-known to be possible to abuse the eBPF JIT to construct
>> gadgets for code re-use attacks. To hinder this constant blinding was
>> added in "bpf: add generic constant blinding for use in jits". This
>> mitigation has one weakness though: It ignores jump instructions due to
>> their correct offsets not being known when constant blinding is applied.
>> This can be abused to construct "jump-chains" with crafted offsets so
>> that certain desirable instructions are generated by the JIT compiler.
>> F.e. two consecutive BPF_JMP | BPF_JA codes with an appropriate offset
>> might generate the following jumps:
>>
>>     ...
>>     0xffffffffc000f822:    jmp    0xffffffffc00108df
>>     0xffffffffc000f827:    jmp    0xffffffffc0010861
>>     ...
>>
>> If those are hit unaligned we can get two consecutive useful
>> instructions:
>>
>>     ...
>>     0xffffffffc000f823:    mov    $0xe9000010,%eax
>>     0xffffffffc000f828:    xor    $0xe9000010,%eax
>>     ...
> 
> Nack.
> This is not exploitable.
> We're not going to complicate classic bpf because of theoretical concerns.
> 
> pw-bot: cr

This is not a theoretical concern, it is actually very practical. Sorry
for not making this clearer. I would rather not share full payloads
publicly at this point, though.
I understand that it is undesirable to complicate the code, but after
some initial discussion this seemed to be the least intrusive option.
However I would appreciate suggestions for better solutions..

Thanks,
Lion

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-11  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-10  8:32 [PATCH net-next] net: filter: remove dead instructions in filter code Lion Ackermann
2025-04-10 15:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-11  6:24   ` Lion Ackermann [this message]
2025-04-11 15:20     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-15  8:54       ` Lion Ackermann

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