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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, 	martin.lau@linux.dev, kernel-team@fb.com,
	yonghong.song@linux.dev,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 4/8] bpf: attribute __arg_untrusted for global function parameters
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2025 11:28:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb5b8613584dbce72359e44ef3974e4cb7c8298e.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP01T74AYNX5ARJ5YXryUyKvn5o0Dv0JBoq3CCKcD8rh==uKQA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2025-07-04 at 20:03 +0200, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:

[...]

> > @@ -7818,6 +7821,22 @@ int btf_prepare_func_args(struct bpf_verifier_env *env, int subprog)
> >                         sub->args[i].btf_id = kern_type_id;
> >                         continue;
> >                 }
> > +               if (tags & ARG_TAG_UNTRUSTED) {
> > +                       int kern_type_id;
> > +
> > +                       if (tags & ~ARG_TAG_UNTRUSTED) {
> > +                               bpf_log(log, "arg#%d untrusted cannot be combined with any other tags\n", i);
> > +                               return -EINVAL;
> > +                       }
> > +
> > +                       kern_type_id = btf_get_ptr_to_btf_id(log, i, btf, t);
> 
> So while this makes sense for trusted, I think for untrusted, we
> should allow types in program BTF as well.
> This is one of the things I think lacks in bpf_rdonly_cast as well, to
> be able to cast to types in program BTF.
> Say you want to reinterpret some kernel memory into your own type and
> access it using a struct in the program which is a different type.
> I think it makes sense to make this work.

Hi Kumar,

Thank you for the review.
Allowing local program BTF makes sense to me.
I assume we should first search in kernel BTF and fallback to program
BTF if nothing found. This way verifier might catch a program
accessing kernel data structure but having wrong assumptions about
field offsets (not using CO-RE). On the other hand, this might get
confusing if there is an accidental conflict between kernel data
structure name and program local data structure name.

Mechanically this would be a slightly bigger change,
as btf_prepare_func_args() does not record which BTF was used for a
parameter and always assumes vmlinux BTF.

> When I needed it in the past I just added a local new
> bpf_rdonly_cast_local variant that uses prog->btf for btf_id and moved
> on.
> 
> Supporting bpf_core_cast for both prog BTF and kernel BTF types is not
> trivial because we cannot disambiguate local vs kernel types.
> IIRC module BTF types probably don't work either but that's a different story.

I can add bpf_rdonly_cast_local() as a followup, do you remember
context in which you needed this?

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-02 22:42 [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/8] bpf: additional use-cases for untrusted PTR_TO_MEM Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/8] bpf: make makr_btf_ld_reg return error for unexpected reg types Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 17:20   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 2/8] bpf: rdonly_untrusted_mem for btf id walk pointer leafs Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 17:27   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 3/8] selftests/bpf: ptr_to_btf_id struct walk ending with primitive pointer Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 17:34   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 4/8] bpf: attribute __arg_untrusted for global function parameters Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-03  3:18   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-07-03 21:25     ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 18:17       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-07-04 18:03   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-04 18:28     ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2025-07-04 18:33       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 18:50         ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-04 19:07           ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 19:15             ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-04 19:23               ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 20:05                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-07-04 20:20                   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-04 20:34                     ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 20:47                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 5/8] libbpf: __arg_untrusted in bpf_helpers.h Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 18:04   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 6/8] selftests/bpf: test cases for __arg_untrusted Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 18:05   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 7/8] bpf: support for void/primitive __arg_untrusted global func params Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-03  3:20   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-07-03 21:49     ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 18:11       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-07-04 18:09   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-02 22:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 8/8] selftests/bpf: tests for __arg_untrusted void * " Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-04 18:12   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2025-07-04 18:35     ` Eduard Zingerman

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