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From: Markus Heidelberg <markus.heidelberg@web.de>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] Buildroot maintainer and stable releases
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:50:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901081850.39916.markus.heidelberg@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6cda7730901070601o1c98127cv2df22e32808718b0@mail.gmail.com>

Thiago A. Corr?a, 07.01.2009:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Markus Heidelberg
> <markus.heidelberg@web.de> wrote:
> > Peter Korsgaard, 07.01.2009:
> >> Markus Heidelberg writes:
> >
> >> Right now things are kind of a mess as avr32 is lacking from most
> >> upstream projects, so there's lots of big patches involved. As things
> >> are now, I don't see missing avr32 as a showstopper for a first
> >> release.
> >
> > Absolutely agreed. Especially given that there is this well-supported
> > AVR32 fork (which isn't really a fork I think, it rather sits on top of
> > uclibc-buildroot).
> >
> 
> This is not really true. The Atmel fork have numerous issues, and I
> can't do much about them, that's exactly why I looked up to this
> project. I didn't even knew what buildroot was before being introduced
> to Atmel's fork.
> John and Amaur, certainly had their issues with Atmel's fork as well,
> since they decided to contribute AVR32 specific changes here at some
> point. That probably could be said about most AVR32 user around.

Given that there are numerous issues, can you at least show me a few of
them? I'm interested. Everybody is calling for stable releases, HCE
offers such for AVR32, but nobody is using them!?

> I guess HCE and others from Atmel will only point users to Atmel's
> fork because of the quality issues we have here, and lack of release.
> It really doesn't look good for the company to point it's customers
> here and it sudenly doesn't even build today.

Agreed.

> Having our quality issues and releases sorted out, it's likely that
> their branch might just go away.

I don't know, but I don't necessarily think so. 

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@uclibc.org> wrote:
> >  Ulf> That is why other systems like OpenEmbedded allow having more
> >  Ulf> than one version of a package.
> >  Ulf> A system that only allows a single version is really not useful.
> >
> > Sorry, I disagree. Most packages only have a single version and that
> > works fine. Almost everything under packages builds just fine on any
> [cut]
> 
> I agree with Peter. We should strive to keep single versions only.
> There are cases like DirectFB and perhaps other libs that it's not
> possible, because the lib changes it's API. But in general, having
> several versions of the same package will add clutter and will be a
> maintenance nightmare.
> Ulf, I see your point. But suggesting to have versions for every
> package is too much. Perhaps we could have multiple versions for one
> very important package or another but every one doesn't make sense.

The point is, when you have to be stable for delivered products, you
won't update any package without a reason, let alone u-boot or the
toolchain. During development you can update whenever you want to. So if
you really need some new versions, you can cherry-pick them from the
latest buildroot into your stable-branch. No need for multiple version
inside buildroot itself.

Markus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-08 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-05 21:18 [Buildroot] Buildroot maintainer and stable releases Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 12:02 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 12:39   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 12:55     ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 15:32       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 12:44   ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07  3:09     ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-07  8:08       ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07  8:27       ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07  8:31         ` Nigel Kukard
2009-01-07 12:19         ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-07 13:02           ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 14:01           ` Thiago A. Corrêa
2009-01-08 17:50             ` Markus Heidelberg [this message]
2009-01-08 18:29               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 20:28                 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-08 21:05                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 22:06                     ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-08 22:33                       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 23:13                         ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-09  9:15                           ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-09  9:12                         ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 11:13       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 11:28         ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 12:10           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 12:24             ` Nigel Kukard
2009-01-07 12:57             ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 18:13             ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 19:16               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 19:39                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08  8:25                 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-08  9:10                   ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 11:50         ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-07 11:54           ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 12:55             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 14:01 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-06 15:08   ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 18:32     ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-06 18:52       ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 19:09         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 19:23           ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 18:43           ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 19:26             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 20:22               ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 20:31                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08  8:27                   ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-08  9:12                     ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08 10:02                       ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 23:42                 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08  9:00                   ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 14:52 ` Nigel Kukard
2009-01-06 15:01   ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08 21:00   ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-06 18:22 ` Thiago A. Corrêa
2009-01-06 18:33   ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 18:53     ` Thiago A. Corrêa
2009-01-06 18:55     ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 19:19       ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 19:02   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 19:16     ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 20:49       ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 11:29         ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 12:34           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 13:15             ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 18:02             ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 19:13               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 19:36                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 20:36                   ` Joe George
2009-01-07 20:47                     ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 23:28                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08  8:07                 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-08 19:22 ` Steve Calfee

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