From: Markus Heidelberg <markus.heidelberg@web.de>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] Buildroot maintainer and stable releases
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:50:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901081850.39916.markus.heidelberg@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6cda7730901070601o1c98127cv2df22e32808718b0@mail.gmail.com>
Thiago A. Corr?a, 07.01.2009:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Markus Heidelberg
> <markus.heidelberg@web.de> wrote:
> > Peter Korsgaard, 07.01.2009:
> >> Markus Heidelberg writes:
> >
> >> Right now things are kind of a mess as avr32 is lacking from most
> >> upstream projects, so there's lots of big patches involved. As things
> >> are now, I don't see missing avr32 as a showstopper for a first
> >> release.
> >
> > Absolutely agreed. Especially given that there is this well-supported
> > AVR32 fork (which isn't really a fork I think, it rather sits on top of
> > uclibc-buildroot).
> >
>
> This is not really true. The Atmel fork have numerous issues, and I
> can't do much about them, that's exactly why I looked up to this
> project. I didn't even knew what buildroot was before being introduced
> to Atmel's fork.
> John and Amaur, certainly had their issues with Atmel's fork as well,
> since they decided to contribute AVR32 specific changes here at some
> point. That probably could be said about most AVR32 user around.
Given that there are numerous issues, can you at least show me a few of
them? I'm interested. Everybody is calling for stable releases, HCE
offers such for AVR32, but nobody is using them!?
> I guess HCE and others from Atmel will only point users to Atmel's
> fork because of the quality issues we have here, and lack of release.
> It really doesn't look good for the company to point it's customers
> here and it sudenly doesn't even build today.
Agreed.
> Having our quality issues and releases sorted out, it's likely that
> their branch might just go away.
I don't know, but I don't necessarily think so.
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@uclibc.org> wrote:
> > Ulf> That is why other systems like OpenEmbedded allow having more
> > Ulf> than one version of a package.
> > Ulf> A system that only allows a single version is really not useful.
> >
> > Sorry, I disagree. Most packages only have a single version and that
> > works fine. Almost everything under packages builds just fine on any
> [cut]
>
> I agree with Peter. We should strive to keep single versions only.
> There are cases like DirectFB and perhaps other libs that it's not
> possible, because the lib changes it's API. But in general, having
> several versions of the same package will add clutter and will be a
> maintenance nightmare.
> Ulf, I see your point. But suggesting to have versions for every
> package is too much. Perhaps we could have multiple versions for one
> very important package or another but every one doesn't make sense.
The point is, when you have to be stable for delivered products, you
won't update any package without a reason, let alone u-boot or the
toolchain. During development you can update whenever you want to. So if
you really need some new versions, you can cherry-pick them from the
latest buildroot into your stable-branch. No need for multiple version
inside buildroot itself.
Markus
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-05 21:18 [Buildroot] Buildroot maintainer and stable releases Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 12:02 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 12:39 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 12:55 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 15:32 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 12:44 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 3:09 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-07 8:08 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 8:27 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 8:31 ` Nigel Kukard
2009-01-07 12:19 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-07 13:02 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 14:01 ` Thiago A. Corrêa
2009-01-08 17:50 ` Markus Heidelberg [this message]
2009-01-08 18:29 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 20:28 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-08 21:05 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 22:06 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-08 22:33 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 23:13 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-09 9:15 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-09 9:12 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 11:13 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 11:28 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 12:10 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 12:24 ` Nigel Kukard
2009-01-07 12:57 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 18:13 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 19:16 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 19:39 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08 8:25 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-08 9:10 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 11:50 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-07 11:54 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 12:55 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 14:01 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-06 15:08 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 18:32 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-06 18:52 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 19:09 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 19:23 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 18:43 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 19:26 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 20:22 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 20:31 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08 8:27 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-08 9:12 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08 10:02 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 23:42 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 9:00 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 14:52 ` Nigel Kukard
2009-01-06 15:01 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-08 21:00 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-06 18:22 ` Thiago A. Corrêa
2009-01-06 18:33 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 18:53 ` Thiago A. Corrêa
2009-01-06 18:55 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 19:19 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 19:02 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-06 19:16 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-06 20:49 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 11:29 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 12:34 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 13:15 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 18:02 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-07 19:13 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-07 19:36 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 20:36 ` Joe George
2009-01-07 20:47 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-07 23:28 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2009-01-08 8:07 ` Thomas Lundquist
2009-01-08 19:22 ` Steve Calfee
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