* [Buildroot] buildroot-2012.08: Error when selecting crosstool-ng
@ 2012-10-01 23:25 Zvi Vered
2012-10-02 0:09 ` Baruch Siach
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Zvi Vered @ 2012-10-01 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
Hello,
I'm using buildroot-2012.08 to create toolchain + file system for an x86 target.
When I set toolchain to: buildroot, the build was OK.
Then I changed to: crosstool-ng and got the following error:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO ] Performing some trivial sanity checks
[INFO ] Build started 20121002.012043
[INFO ] Building environment variables
[EXTRA] Preparing working directories
[EXTRA] Installing user-supplied crosstool-NG configuration
[EXTRA] =================================================================
[EXTRA] Dumping internal crosstool-NG configuration
[EXTRA] Building a toolchain for:
[EXTRA] build = i686-pc-linux-gnu
[EXTRA] host = i686-pc-linux-gnu
[EXTRA] target = i686-unknown-linux-uclibc
[EXTRA] Dumping internal crosstool-NG configuration: done in 0.08s (at 00:01)
[INFO ] =================================================================
[INFO ] Retrieving needed toolchain components' tarballs
[EXTRA] Retrieving 'linux-3.5'
[ALL ] --01:20:44--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.5.tar.xz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.xz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22323 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22324 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:45--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/v3.5/linux-3.5.tar.xz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.xz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22335 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22336 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:47--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/linux-3.5.tar.xz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.xz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22347 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22348 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:47--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.5.tar.lzma
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.lzma.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22359 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22360 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:48--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/v3.5/linux-3.5.tar.lzma
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.lzma.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22371 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22372 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:49--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/linux-3.5.tar.lzma
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.lzma.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22383 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22384 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:50--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.5.tar.bz2
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.bz2.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22395 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22396 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:50--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/v3.5/linux-3.5.tar.bz2
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.bz2.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22407 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22408 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:51--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/linux-3.5.tar.bz2
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.bz2.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22419 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22420 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:51--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.5.tar.gz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.gz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22431 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22432 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:52--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/v3.5/linux-3.5.tar.gz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.gz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22443 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22444 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:52--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/linux-3.5.tar.gz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.gz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22455 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22456 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:53--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.5.tgz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tgz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22467 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22468 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:53--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/v3.5/linux-3.5.tgz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tgz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22479 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22480 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:54--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/linux-3.5.tgz
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tgz.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22491 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22492 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:54--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.5.tar
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22503 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22504 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:54--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/v3.5/linux-3.5.tar
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22515 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22516 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:55--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/linux-3.5.tar
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tar.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22527 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22528 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:55-- http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.5
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22539 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22540 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:56--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/v3.5/linux-3.5
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22551 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22552 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ALL ] --01:20:56--
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/longterm/linux-3.5
[ALL ] Resolving ftp.kernel.org... 149.20.4.69
[ALL ] Connecting to ftp.kernel.org|149.20.4.69|:80... connected.
[ALL ] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[ALL ] File
`/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/build-toolchain/.build/tarballs/linux-3.5.tmp-dl'
already there; not retrieving.
[ALL ]
/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/lib/ct-ng.1.16.0/scripts/functions:
line 158: 22563 Aborted "${@}" 2>&1
22564 Done | CT_DoLog "${level}"
[ERROR]
[ERROR] >>
[ERROR] >> Build failed in step 'Retrieving needed toolchain
components' tarballs'
[ERROR] >> called in step '(top-level)'
[ERROR] >>
[ERROR] >> Error happened in: do_kernel_get[scripts/build/kernel/linux.sh at 19]
[ERROR] >> called from: main[scripts/crosstool-NG.sh at 528]
[ERROR] >>
[ERROR] >> For more info on this error, look at the file: 'build.log'
[ERROR] >> There is a list of known issues, some with workarounds, in:
[ERROR] >>
'/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/host/usr/share/doc/crosstool-ng/ct-ng.1.16.0/B
- Known issues.txt'
[ERROR]
[ERROR] (elapsed: 0:13.95)
make[2]: *** [build] Error 1
make[1]: *** [build.4] Error 2
make: *** [/home/zvivered/GNU/buildroot-2012.08/output/stamps/ct-ng-toolchain-built]
Error 2
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The reason I changed to crosstool-ng is that I want to use glibc and not ulibc.
Attached the .config I'm using.
Can you help ?
Thanks,
Zvika.
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* [Buildroot] buildroot-2012.08: Error when selecting crosstool-ng
2012-10-01 23:25 [Buildroot] buildroot-2012.08: Error when selecting crosstool-ng Zvi Vered
@ 2012-10-02 0:09 ` Baruch Siach
[not found] ` <CABRndgz+297jXwaBiThqrhztj-0uUajQu7OY=nRoz7DLxLid8Q@mail.gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Baruch Siach @ 2012-10-02 0:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
Hi Zvi,
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:25:11AM +0200, Zvi Vered wrote:
> I'm using buildroot-2012.08 to create toolchain + file system for an x86
> target.
>
> When I set toolchain to: buildroot, the build was OK.
>
> Then I changed to: crosstool-ng and got the following error:
Questions related to crosstool-ng should go to the crossgcc mailing list. See
under "Contacts" at http://crosstool-ng.org/.
[snip]
> The reason I changed to crosstool-ng is that I want to use glibc and not
> ulibc.
>
> Attached the .config I'm using.
You say you want glibc toolchain, but your .config indicates otherwise:
BR2_TOOLCHAIN_CTNG_uClibc=y
# BR2_TOOLCHAIN_CTNG_eglibc is not set
# BR2_TOOLCHAIN_CTNG_glibc is not set
> Can you help ?
An alternative to building a toolchain from scratch is to use a pre-built
toolchain as external toolchain. Buildroot can even download and install the
Sourcery CodeBench toolchain for you. Just select "External toolchain" in
Toolchain -> Toolchain type, and then select from the options in the
"Toolchain" choice menu.
baruch
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* [Buildroot] buildroot-2012.08: Error when selecting crosstool-ng
[not found] ` <CABRndgz+297jXwaBiThqrhztj-0uUajQu7OY=nRoz7DLxLid8Q@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2012-10-02 14:01 ` Baruch Siach
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Baruch Siach @ 2012-10-02 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
Hi Zvi,
(Adding back the list to Cc)
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:44:06AM +0200, Zvi Vered wrote:
> You are right. Attached the right config.
But still, you have in your .config:
BR2_TOOLCHAIN_CTNG_CONFIG="toolchain/toolchain-crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng.config-uClibc"
which means that you are going to end up with a uClibc based toolchain. You
need to put crosstool-ng.config-glibc or crosstool-ng.config-eglibc in there
for a glibc/eglibc toolchain.
And what about the pre-built, eglibc based, Sourcery CodeBench toolchain?
baruch
> Before using buildroot I used crosstool-ng only (downloaded directly
> from crosstool-ng) and had the same problem.
>
> For some reason nobody in crosstool-ng is answering (2 days)
>
> On 10/2/12, Baruch Siach <baruch@tkos.co.il> wrote:
> > Hi Zvi,
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:25:11AM +0200, Zvi Vered wrote:
> >> I'm using buildroot-2012.08 to create toolchain + file system for an x86
> >> target.
> >>
> >> When I set toolchain to: buildroot, the build was OK.
> >>
> >> Then I changed to: crosstool-ng and got the following error:
> >
> > Questions related to crosstool-ng should go to the crossgcc mailing list.
> > See
> > under "Contacts" at http://crosstool-ng.org/.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> The reason I changed to crosstool-ng is that I want to use glibc and not
> >>
> >> ulibc.
> >>
> >> Attached the .config I'm using.
> >
> > You say you want glibc toolchain, but your .config indicates otherwise:
> >
> > BR2_TOOLCHAIN_CTNG_uClibc=y
> > # BR2_TOOLCHAIN_CTNG_eglibc is not set
> > # BR2_TOOLCHAIN_CTNG_glibc is not set
> >
> >> Can you help ?
> >
> > An alternative to building a toolchain from scratch is to use a pre-built
> > toolchain as external toolchain. Buildroot can even download and install the
> >
> > Sourcery CodeBench toolchain for you. Just select "External toolchain" in
> > Toolchain -> Toolchain type, and then select from the options in the
> > "Toolchain" choice menu.
> >
> > baruch
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