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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 16/20] system: separate sysv and systemd parts of the skeleton
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 12:24:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170723102453.GE26998@scaer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430c46f8-bb5d-a2bf-3695-6822609e0a2c@mind.be>

Arnout, All,

On 2017-07-23 02:08 +0200, Arnout Vandecappelle spake thusly:
> On 18-07-17 19:25, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> > systems does not like that the content of /var be symlinks to /tmp,
>   systemd
> 
> > especially journald that starts before /tmp is mounted, and thus the
> > journal files are hidden from view, which causes wuite a bit if fuss...
>                                                    quite
> > 
> > Instead, move the current /var to a sysv-only skeleton.
> > 
> > systemd at install time will create the /var content it needs, so we
> 
>  I guess systemd will also create a tmpfs on /var?

No it does not. But so far we do not support systemd on a read-only
root filesystem anyway (see the depends on for systemd).

In a later patch, we add support for a read-only rootfs, and then we add
an explicit tmpfs mont on /var, which systemd does not do on its own,
which is the reason for 886f3109bc (system: systemd only really supports
a R/W rootfs)

> > just create an empty /var for systemd. Yet, systemd really requires a
> > bunch of extra directories to exist, so we also create those.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
> > Cc: Maxime Hadjinlian <maxime.hadjinlian@gmail.com>
> 
>  Commit message needs to be improved (see also below), but with that
> Reviewed-by: Arnout Vandecappelle (Essensium/Mind) <arnout@mind.be>
> 
> > 
> > ---
> > Note: /home and /srv will be created at runtime if missing, but it is
> > better to create them right now, to simplify supporting systemd on a
> > RO filesystem in the (near) future.
> > ---
> >  package/skeleton-systemd/skeleton-systemd.mk              | 7 +++++++
> >  package/skeleton-sysv/skeleton-sysv.mk                    | 4 ++++
> >  {system => package/skeleton-sysv}/skeleton/dev/log        | 0
> >  {system => package/skeleton-sysv}/skeleton/dev/pts/.empty | 0
> >  {system => package/skeleton-sysv}/skeleton/dev/shm/.empty | 0
> 
>  I guess indeed the /dev stuff is not needed for systemd because there is anyway
> a devtmpfs mounted over it. Which makes me wonder: shouldn't these be moved to
> the device-table? Only the static devices case needs these to be present... Of
> course, such a change is not for this patch, but I'd say that we can just leave
> this /dev stuff in the common part - systemd has no less use of it than sysv.
> 
> >  {system => package/skeleton-sysv}/skeleton/etc/fstab      | 0
> 
>  Why? systemd does use fstab, so it seems weird not to have an fstab in the
> systemd case.

We do have one, it is created in the skeleton-systemd.mk file:

    define SKELETON_SYSTEMD_INSTALL_TARGET_CMDS
            mkdir -p $(TARGET_DIR)/home
            mkdir -p $(TARGET_DIR)/srv
            mkdir -p $(TARGET_DIR)/var
            echo "/dev/root / auto rw 0 1" >$(TARGET_DIR)/etc/fstab
    endef

> Well, I guess our skeleton fstab doesn't contain anything relevant
> for systemd because all of that is handled already by tmpfiles.

Exactly.

> But the commit log should at least explain this.

Like so, maybe?

    For systemd, we only ever need an entry for /, because all the rest
    is totally irrelevant for systemd (it automatically mounts what it
    needs where it needs it).

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-23 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-18 17:25 [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/20] system: properly handle systemd as init system Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 01/20] support/tests: allow properly indented config fragment Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 20:45   ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 02/20] core/pkg-generic: add variable to skip skeleton dependency Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 12:27   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  9:12     ` Peter Korsgaard
2017-07-23  9:21       ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 13:01         ` Peter Korsgaard
2017-07-22 13:41   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 03/20] package/skeleton: add macro to rsync skeleton directory Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 12:34   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 13:02   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 14:33     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:42   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 04/20] package/skeleton: make SKELETON_LIB_SYMLINK a macro Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 12:56   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 19:47     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 21:02       ` [Buildroot] Is MIPS_NABI32 a 64-bit architecture? [was: [PATCH 04/20] package/skeleton: make SKELETON_LIB_SYMLINK a macro] Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 13:50   ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 04/20] package/skeleton: make SKELETON_LIB_SYMLINK a macro Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 14:23     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 19:45   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 05/20] system: provide package-wide system variables and macros Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:00   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 06/20] system: move setting getty to the corresponding init systems Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:11   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 19:57     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 21:13       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 20:34   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 07/20] system: move remounting / " Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:16   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 20:36   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 08/20] system: with no init system, only allow custom skeleton Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 13:28   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 13:53     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 21:18       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 22:12         ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 09/20] package/skeleton: drop dependency on host-mkpasswd Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 21:24   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 22:32     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 10/20] package/skeleton: select it rather than default to y Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 21:47   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 11/20] package/skeleton: split out into skeleton-custom Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 22:31   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 22:38     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  9:45       ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 12/20] package/skeleton: split out into skeleton-common Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:06   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  9:48     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:32       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-24  7:19         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-24 15:19           ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 13/20] package/skeleton: make it a virtual package Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:36   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:13     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:48       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 14/20] package/skeleton-common: simplify staging install Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:38   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 15/20] package/skeleton: introduce sysv- and systemd-specific skeletons Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 23:49   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:15     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 16/20] system: separate sysv and systemd parts of the skeleton Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23  0:08   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23  0:13     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:31       ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 10:24     ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2017-07-23 13:32       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 13:39         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 13:41           ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 17/20] sytem: no-init systems may use our default, common skeleton Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23  0:18   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 10:37     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 18/20] fs: add pre- and post-command hooks Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 13:42   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-23 14:17     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 21:51       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-24 16:01         ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24 22:23           ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 19/20] system: make systemd work on a read-only rootfs Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 22:18   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-24 15:45     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24 22:44       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-25 16:07         ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-25 22:24           ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-18 17:25 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 20/20] support/testing: add runtime testing for init systems Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 14:32   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 14:45     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-22 19:30       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 19:53       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2017-07-22 20:10         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-22 22:50           ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23  7:58             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-23  9:26               ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 18:13                 ` [Buildroot] TestIso9660GrubExternal and TestIso9660GrubInternal failing Ricardo Martincoski
2017-07-23 20:02                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:28                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-23 20:39                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24  7:13                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-24 11:07                     ` Ricardo Martincoski
2017-07-24 15:18                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-24 15:20   ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 20/20] support/testing: add runtime testing for init systems Andrey Smirnov
2017-07-24 15:50     ` Yann E. MORIN
2017-07-19 20:14 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/20] system: properly handle systemd as init system Andrey Yurovsky
2017-07-19 20:53   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-19 22:17     ` Andrey Yurovsky
2017-07-20  7:32       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2017-07-21 22:15         ` Marcus Hoffmann
2017-07-28 20:41           ` Marcus Hoffmann
2017-07-28 20:54             ` Thomas Petazzoni

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