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From: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.com>
To: ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ECONNREFUSED implies OSD definitely failed
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:32:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160428143251.GA1541@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1604221221000.8831@cpach.fuggernut.com>

On 2016-04-22T12:24:52, Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com> wrote:

> Piotr has a PR at
> 
> 	https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/8558
> 
> that changes the messenger and OSD logic so that if we get an ECONNREFUSED 
> trying to talk to another OSD we can definitively conclude that the OSD is 
> down/failed, without waiting for the normal heartbeat timeout.
> 
> I think this is true in normal networking environments.  My only concern 
> is that there might be cases where the OSD isn't actually down and some 
> transient network issue could cause ECONNREFUSED.  Like... some 
> firewally magic networky thing.  If a transient ECONNREFUSED was possible, 
> it could cause some ugly flapping.
> 
> Can anyone think of something that might cause this?  Even if it is 
> something obscure, it means we should have a config option to disable this 
> new behavior (we probably should anyway).

Exactly this - the system reconfiguring it's network interfaces and
firewall rules (in a suboptimal fashion; it should drop, not reject, but
...).

Or a duplicate IP address (with a node that isn't running ceph-osd).
Again, not supposed to happen.



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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-28 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-22 16:24 ECONNREFUSED implies OSD definitely failed Sage Weil
2016-04-28 14:32 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree [this message]
2016-04-29  7:46   ` Piotr Dałek
2016-04-29 12:29     ` Sage Weil
2016-04-29 12:32       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2016-04-29 19:02       ` Piotr Dałek

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