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From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>
Cc: "Hao Li" <hao.li@linux.dev>, "Harry Yoo" <harry@kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Lameter" <cl@gentwo.org>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	"Alexander Potapenko" <glider@google.com>,
	"Marco Elver" <elver@google.com>,
	"Dmitry Vyukov" <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"kasan-dev" <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	"linux-mm" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/16] mm/slab: introduce alloc_flags and SLAB_ALLOC_TRYLOCK
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:49:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DJ9QPTO2WXNB.10E88ZHWRDHB0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f927f1b4-3f60-471e-b42b-8d098c1ce5dd@kernel.org>

On Mon Jun 15, 2026 at 2:02 AM PDT, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 6/15/26 04:16, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2026 at 7:01 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 8:50 PM Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 05:40:07PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>> > > Similarly to the page allocators, introduce slab-allocator specific
>>> > > alloc flags that internally control allocation behavior in addition to
>>> > > gfp_flags, without occupying the limited gfp flags space.
>>> > >
>>> > > Introduce the first flag SLAB_ALLOC_TRYLOCK that behaves similarly to
>>> > > page allocator's ALLOC_TRYLOCK and will be used to reimplement
>>> > > kmalloc_nolock()'s "!allow_spin" behavior. That currently relies on
>>> > > gfpflags_allow_spinning() and thus the lack of both __GFP_RECLAIM flags,
>>> > > importantly __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM. This can give false-positive results
>>> > > e.g. in early boot with a restricted gfp_allowed_mask.
>>> > >
>>> > > Also introduce alloc_flags_allow_spinning() to replace the usage of
>>> > > gfpflags_allow_spinning().
>>> > >
>>> > > Start using alloc_flags and the new check first in alloc_from_pcs() and
>>> > > __pcs_replace_empty_main(). This means some slab allocations that were
>>> > > falsely treated as kmalloc_nolock() due to their gfp flags will now have
>>> > > higher chances of succeed, and this will further increase with followup
>>>
>>> nit: I think it should be either "higher chances of succeess" or
>>> "higher chances to succeed".
>
> success it is
>
>>>
>>> > > changes.
>>> > >
>>> > > Remove a WARN_ON_ONCE() from refill_objects() as it's now legitimate to
>>> > > reach it from a slab allocation that's not _nolock() and yet lacks
>>> > > __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM for other reasons.
>>> > >
>>> > > Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
>>> > > ---
>>> >
>>> > Reviewed-by: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>
>>>
>>> I would call SLAB_ALLOC_TRYLOCK something like SLAB_ALLOC_NOSPIN or
>>> SLAB_ALLOC_NOLOCK but naming is hard and I don't claim myself to be
>>> good at it. So, feel free to adopt my suggestion if you like it or
>>> ignore it otherwise.
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
>> 
>> Just noticed "trylock" in the #define SLAB_ALLOC_TRYLOCK
>> 
>> Please call it SLAB_ALLOC_NOLOCK.
>> 
>> Initial api was using 'trylock' name and it was a mistake,
>> since people assumed normal spin_trylock() like semantics.
>> "trylock" implies that it fails under contention
>> and retry is a normal next step. It's not the case.
>> No one should be retrying. That's why the final api was kmalloc_nolock().
>> So please keep this important distinction in the name.
>> SLAB_ALLOC_NOLOCK should mean that spinning locks
>> should not be taken. It should not mean "just go to trylock everywhere".
>
> Eh, ok then, will change to SLAB_ALLOC_NOLOCK. Even though it's mostly internal.
>
> So next thing we change page allocator's ALLOC_TRYLOCK to ALLOC_NOLOCK too?

yeah. Would be good to align as well.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-15 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-10 15:40 [PATCH v2 00/16] mm/slab: introduce alloc_flags and slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] mm/slab: do not limit zeroing to orig_size when only red zoning is enabled Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11  4:28   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-12  3:47   ` Hao Li
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] mm/slab: do not init any kfence objects on allocation Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11  3:19   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11  8:34     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 14:47       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 15:11         ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11 16:37           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15  1:28             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15  8:52               ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] mm/slab: stop inlining __slab_alloc_node() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  3:48   ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  1:33     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] mm/slab: introduce slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11  4:49   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-12  3:10   ` Hao Li
2026-06-12  9:51     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15  1:41       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] mm/slab: introduce alloc_flags and SLAB_ALLOC_TRYLOCK Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11  4:57   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11  6:40   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-11  8:51     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  3:49   ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  2:00     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15  2:01       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15  2:16       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-15  9:02         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 15:49           ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] mm/slab: add alloc_flags to slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11  5:06   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-12  3:50   ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  2:20     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] mm/slab: replace struct partial_context with slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11  6:05   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-15  2:36     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 10:01       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  4:04   ` Hao Li
2026-06-12  9:56     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] mm/slab: pass alloc_flags to new slab allocation Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11  7:52   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-15 10:14     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  5:26   ` Hao Li
2026-06-12  9:59     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15  4:10       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] mm/slab: pass alloc_flags through slab_post_alloc_hook() chain Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15  4:35   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 11:33     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] mm/slab: replace slab_alloc_node() parameters with slab_alloc_context Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  5:28   ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  4:39     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] mm/slab: allow kmem_cache_alloc_bulk() with any gfp flags Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  3:21   ` Hao Li
2026-06-12 10:05     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15  4:48       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] mm/slab: pass slab_alloc_context to __do_kmalloc_node() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  5:34   ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  4:58   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 11:08     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] mm/slab: allow __GFP_NOMEMALLOC and __GFP_NOWARN for kmalloc_nolock() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  6:57   ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  5:06     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] mm/slab: introduce kmalloc_flags() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  8:02   ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  5:14     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] mm/slab: remove __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT usage from alloc_slab_obj_exts() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-11 16:28   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  6:54   ` Hao Li
2026-06-12 10:17     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12 11:29       ` Hao Li
2026-06-15  5:38         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-15 11:11           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-10 15:40 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] mm/slab: replace __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT with SLAB_ALLOC_NO_RECURSE for sheaves Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-12  8:16   ` Hao Li

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