From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-7.5 4/5] memcg: avoid queuing high_work from reclaim
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2026 21:27:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <as_XvRZzV6vR9dCo@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <as_AxtUlV8K2fkNu@linux.dev>
On Wed 14-10-26 10:55:21, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2026 at 06:59:30PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 14-10-26 09:06:00, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2026 at 01:39:06PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Sat 10-10-26 14:09:56, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > > Kernel threads and remote chargers use high_work when memory.high is
> > > > > exceeded. Their allocations during reclaim can also charge memory,
> > > > > for example when zswap stores a page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Without a check, the high_work worker can queue itself from its own
> > > > > reclaim. The pending bit is cleared before high_work runs, so each run
> > > > > can queue another run.
> > > >
> > > > What does that mean really? Does this delays the actual run?
> > >
> > > It will not delay the actual charge request. This mainly means that we keep
> > > enqueing the high reclaim work even from high reclaim context and can
> > > potentially keep wasting CPU if high reclaim is not very successful.
> >
> > Hmm, so is there any practical problem if we do that? What exactly do you
> > mean by "keep wasting CPU"?
>
> More specifically if high_work kworker keeps enqueing high_work, most probably
> the memcg does not have reclaimable memory and keep retrying it wastes CPU.
Yes but this is not specific to PF_MEMALLOC context, or do I miss
something?
> > > > > Skip memory.high enforcement for charges from task context with
> > > > > PF_MEMALLOC set when they would use high_work. This covers kernel
> > > > > threads and remote charges. The memory is still charged. Interrupt
> > > > > charges keep their current path.
> > > > >
> > > > > In a VM with incompressible zswap data, the worker queued itself 163 times
> > > > > without this check.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> > > >
> > > > The patch itself looks OK. I am wondering whether we can unify the check
> > > > with the existing one which forces the allocation through in main
> > > > charging path.
> > >
> > > The force charge (and ENOMEM) paths bypass the memory.high enforcement
> > > altogether.
> >
> > Exactly. Isn't that exactl what we want to achieve here as well?
> >
> > > Only successful charges (done_restock label) goes through
> > > memory.high enforcement. So, even if we move this check in try_charge_memcg, it
> > > will still be a separate check before calling high enforcement function. I think
> > > this check is very high_work specific and better to be in the high enforcement
> > > function.
> >
> > I meant something like the following
>
> Oh ok this makes sense. Do you want to send a patch or should I add this in this
> series replacing the 4th patch?
Feel free to take it. I haven't even tried to compile this. Just wanted
to show what I have in mind.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-14 19:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-10 21:09 [PATCH for-7.5 0/5] memcg: clean up memory.high enforcement Shakeel Butt
2026-10-10 21:09 ` [PATCH for-7.5 1/5] memcg: move memory.high enforcement out of try_charge_memcg() Shakeel Butt
2026-10-12 13:22 ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-12 17:13 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 11:13 ` Michal Hocko
2026-10-10 21:09 ` [PATCH for-7.5 2/5] memcg: use high_work for kernel threads Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 11:21 ` Michal Hocko
2026-10-10 21:09 ` [PATCH for-7.5 3/5] memcg: use high_work for remote charges Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 11:29 ` Michal Hocko
2026-10-10 21:09 ` [PATCH for-7.5 4/5] memcg: avoid queuing high_work from reclaim Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2026-10-14 16:06 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 16:59 ` Michal Hocko
2026-10-14 17:55 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 19:27 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-10-14 19:36 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-10 21:09 ` [PATCH for-7.5 5/5] memcg: simplify high limit handling after a charge Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 11:46 ` Michal Hocko
2026-10-14 17:43 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-14 19:30 ` Michal Hocko
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