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From: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Gene Cooperman <gene@ccs.neu.edu>
Cc: Kapil Arya <kapil@ccs.neu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xemul@sw.ru,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:02:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101122180241.GA25301@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101121082143.GB21672@sundance.ccs.neu.edu>

Gene Cooperman [gene@ccs.neu.edu] wrote:
| > RELIABILITY     checkpoint w/ single syscall;   non-atomic, cannot find leaks
| >                 atomic operation. guaranteed    to determine restartability
| >                 restartability for containers
| 
| My understanding is that the guarantees apply for Linux containers, but not
| for a tree of processes.  Does this imply that linux-cr would have some
| of the same reliability issues as DMTCP for a tree of processes?  (I mean
| the question sincerely, and am not intending to be rude.)  In any case,
| won't DMTCP and Linux C/R have to handle orthogonal reliability issues
| such as external database, time virtualization, and other examples
| from our previous post?

Yes if the user attempts to checkpoint a partial container (what we refer
to process subtree) or fails to snapshot/restore filesystem there could be
leaks that we cannot detect.

But one guarantee we are trying to provide is that if the user checkpoints
a _complete_ container, then we will detect a leak if one exists.

Is there a way to establish a set of constraints (eg: run application in a
container, snapshot/restore filesystem) and then provide leak detection with
a pure userpsace implementation ?

Sukadev

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-22 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-11-07 21:44               ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:31                 ` Gene Cooperman
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2010-11-07 21:59                     ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 11:57                       ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:39                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-11-17 15:46                           ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18  9:13                             ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                               ` <4CE4EE21.6050305-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-18  9:48                                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:13                                   ` Jose R. Santos
2010-11-19  3:54                                   ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-18 19:53                             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-19  4:10                             ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-19 14:04                               ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-20 18:05                                 ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                                 ` <4CE683E1.6010500-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-19 14:36                                   ` Kirill Korotaev
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2010-11-19 15:33                                       ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:00                                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:01                                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:10                                             ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:25                                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:06                                           ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:16                                             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:19                                               ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:27                                                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                                                   ` <AANLkTin7kd3crS+fTLLea5PhAii7B3dz=n7p7YtQ6d4g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-19 16:32                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:38                                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:50                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:55                                                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-20 17:58                                         ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:08                                   ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:11                                   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                                     ` <4CE69B8C.6050606-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-20 18:15                                       ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 19:33                                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-21  8:18                                           ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21  8:21                                             ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-22 18:02                                               ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu [this message]
2010-11-23 17:53                                               ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-24  3:50                                                 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-25 16:04                                                   ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-29  4:09                                                     ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 22:41                                             ` Grant Likely
2010-11-22 17:34                                             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-22 17:18                                           ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 22:17                         ` Matt Helsley
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2010-11-18 10:06                             ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:25                             ` Oren Laadan
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2010-11-08 18:14                         ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 18:37                           ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 19:34                             ` Oren Laadan

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