From: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
To: Matt Helsley <matthltc-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kapil Arya <kapil-1vnkWVZi4QaVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>,
Gene Cooperman <gene-1vnkWVZi4QaVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
ksummit-2010-discuss-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:25:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE58BBD.8010706@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101117221713.GA27736-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
On 11/17/2010 05:17 PM, Matt Helsley wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:57:40PM +0100, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Hello, Oren.
>>
>> On 11/07/2010 10:59 PM, Oren Laadan wrote:
<snip>
>>> Or we could use linux-cr for that: do the c/r in the kernel,
>>> keep the know-how in the kernel, expose (and commit to) a
>>> per-kernel-version ABI (not vow to keep countless new individual
>
> Oren, that statement might be read to imply that it's based on
> something as useless as kernel version numbers. Arnd has pointed out in the
> past how unsuitable that is and I tend to agree. There are at least two
> possible things we can relate it to: the SHA of the compiled kernel tree
> (which doesn't quite work because it assumes everybody uses git trees :( ),
> or perhaps the SHA/hash of the cpp-processed checkpoint_hdr.h. We could
> also stuff that header into the kernel (much like kconfigs are output from
> /proc) for programs that want the kernel to describe the ABI to them.
BTW, it's the same for userspace c/r: for the same set of features,
the format (ABI) remains unchanged. Adding features breaks this and
a new version is necessary, and conversion from old to new will be
needed.
Moreover, supporting a new feature in userspace means adding the
proper API/ABI in the kernel, including refactoring etc, which is
even harder than adding the support for it in linux-cr.
Oren.
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2010-11-07 21:44 ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:31 ` Gene Cooperman
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2010-11-07 21:59 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 11:57 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-11-17 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 9:13 ` Pavel Emelyanov
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2010-11-18 9:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:13 ` Jose R. Santos
2010-11-19 3:54 ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-18 19:53 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-19 4:10 ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-19 14:04 ` Tejun Heo
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2010-11-19 14:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
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2010-11-19 15:33 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:00 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:10 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:25 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:19 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:27 ` Alexey Dobriyan
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2010-11-19 16:32 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:38 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:50 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:55 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-20 17:58 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:08 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:11 ` Oren Laadan
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2010-11-20 18:15 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-21 8:18 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 8:21 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-22 18:02 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-11-23 17:53 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-24 3:50 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-25 16:04 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-29 4:09 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 22:41 ` Grant Likely
2010-11-22 17:34 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-22 17:18 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:05 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 22:17 ` Matt Helsley
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2010-11-18 10:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:25 ` Oren Laadan [this message]
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2010-11-08 18:14 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 18:37 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 19:34 ` Oren Laadan
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