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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces()
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:29:18 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B7060E.3020609@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070806103838.GA129-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>

Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/06, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>> Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 08/06, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>>>> Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>>>> On 07/26, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>>>>>> The reason to release namespaces after reparenting is that when task
>>>>>> exits it may send a signal to its parent (SIGCHLD), but if the parent
>>>>>> has already exited its namespaces there will be no way to decide what
>>>>>> pid to dever to him - parent can be from different namespace.
>>>>> I almost forgot about this one...
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading the whole series, I can't understand the above explanation
>>>>> any longer. The parent can't be from different namespace, either we have
>>>>> another sub-thread, or we reparent the child to /sbin/init which should
>>>>> be from the same namespace.
>>>> If the child that is a new namespace's init is exiting its parent is from 
>>>> the
>>>> different namespace.
>>> In that case it doesn't have childs. The were SIGKILL'ed before 
>>> exit_notify().
>> It does not, but it's parent - does :)
> 
> Yes. But in that case forget_original_parent() is no-op! This means that
> it is not needed to move exit_task_namepsace() after.
> 
>>>> Moreover, we will probably want to implement "entering"
>>>> the pid namespace, so  having tasks with parents from another namespace 
>>>> will
>>>> be OK.
>>> Well. I saw this word "entering", but I don't know the meaning. Just 
>>> curious,
>>> could you explain?
>> "Entering" means "moving task to arbitrary namespace"
> 
> Heh. Very much nontrivial, good luck :) At least we need to grow ->numbers[],
> and if its pid was pinned...
> 
>>> And, if an exiting task has a child which is already from another 
>>> namespace,
>>> why can't we release our namespace before re-parenting? I guess I need to
>>> know what "entering" means to understand this...
>> One of the desired actions was the following:
>> 1. task X clones the new namespace with the child Y as this namespace's 
>> init;
>> 2. task X waits for SIGCHILD to come informing that the namespace is dead.
>> In this scenario we need to set the Y's pid as it is seen from X's 
>> namespace in siginfo.
> 
> Yes sure. But again, how this is connected to "we should do exit_task_namespace()
> after forget_original_parent()" ?
> 
> I guess I missed something stupid and simple...

In other words. Let task X live in init_pid_ns, task Y is his child and lives
int another namespace. task X and task Y both die. This will happen:

1. Task X call exit_task_namespaces() 
   and sets its nsproxy to NULL
                                        1. Task Y is going to notify the 
                                           parent (X) and dereferences its
                                           nsproxy -> OOPS
2. Task X reparents all its children

If we move the exit_task_namespace this will happen:

1. Task X reparents all its children
2. Task X call exit_task_namespaces() 
   and sets its nsproxy to NULL

In such case is tasy Y will dereference the parent's nsproxy it will not
OOPS because either its parent will be not X already, or X's nsproxy is
not yet released.

> Oleg.
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-06 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-26 14:45 [RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found] ` <46A8B37B.6050108-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 14:46   ` [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B3C4.5080601-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 16:10       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-27  6:38         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 16:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070726164724.GA81-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 16:59           ` Kirill Korotaev
2007-07-27  8:07           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20070727080758.GA509-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  8:24               ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                 ` <46A9ABC1.1000800-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  8:35                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20070727083541.GA528-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  8:37                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-08-02 16:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070802162023.GB137-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06  8:00           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46B6D52C.3010405-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06  9:54               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20070806095421.GA85-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06  9:58                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                     ` <46B6F0DA.4080904-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 10:38                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20070806103838.GA129-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 11:21                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                             ` <46B7044A.4030508-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 12:54                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                 ` <20070806125419.GB91-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 13:38                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-08-06 11:29                           ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <46B7060E.3020609-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 12:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                 ` <20070806125032.GA91-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 13:36                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                                     ` <46B723F3.8020905-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 13:57                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-26 14:47   ` [PATCH 2/15] Introduce MS_KERNMOUNT flag Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:48   ` [PATCH 3/15] kern_siginfo helper Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B42F.5070605-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 11:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729114154.GE120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:07           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46AD8032.90005-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31  0:21               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-07-26 14:48   ` [PATCH 4/15] Make proc_flust_task() flush entries from multiple proc trees Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:49   ` [PATCH 5/15] Introduce struct upid Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B486.3030006-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29  9:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729095210.GA120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  5:58           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:50   ` [PATCH 6/15] Make alloc_pid(), free_pid() and put_pid() work with " Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B4AE.6040903-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 10:16       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729101651.GB120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:03           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:51   ` [PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B4D6.1080301-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 19:03       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-27  6:40         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-29 12:10       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729121051.GF120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:11           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:51   ` [PATCH 8/15] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B502.8070606-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 19:05       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-27  6:43         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-29 12:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729124045.GG120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:15           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:52   ` [PATCH 9/15] Move alloc_pid() after the namespace is cloned Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B531.3050602-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 15:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070727151238.GA336-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:17           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46AD8266.8050802-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30 23:43               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-07-31  5:49       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-07-26 14:54   ` [PATCH 10/15] Make each namespace has its own proc tree Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B59E.7050009-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 17:38       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-29 15:58       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729155841.GI120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 17:04           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20070729170436.GA941-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:45               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-30  6:43           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:55   ` [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B5C7.9040407-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 12:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070727123153.GA92-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 13:38           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46A9F54B.5050000-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 18:46               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                 ` <20070727184604.GB1072-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 19:59                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20070727195943.GA25878-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 20:23                       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                         ` <20070727202337.GC1072-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  9:34                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-30  9:31                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                         ` <46ADB000.1000705-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01 16:13                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                             ` <20070801161335.GA10747-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02  8:35                               ` Kirill Korotaev
     [not found]                                 ` <46B19754.4050908-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 20:09                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-07-29 11:25                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-26 14:56   ` [PATCH 12/15] Miscelaneous stuff for pid namespaces Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B601.4020108-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:22       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20070727062213.GE23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:53           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:56   ` [PATCH 13/15] Clone the pid namespace Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:57   ` [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B663.9040206-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 10:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729104145.GC120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30 11:56           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46ADD202.9030502-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30 15:46               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20070730154639.GA127-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31  6:19                   ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                     ` <20070731061917.GB17013-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31  9:07                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20070731090721.GA110-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01  6:16                           ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                             ` <20070801061616.GA5405-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01 16:00                               ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-01 19:51                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                   ` <20070801195123.GB196-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02  8:37                                     ` Kirill Korotaev
     [not found]                                       ` <46B197E3.3040309-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 16:08                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                           ` <20070802160851.GA137-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 17:08                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                               ` <20070802170820.GA2566-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-03  6:22                                                 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                                   ` <20070803062227.GA16833-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-03 10:55                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                       ` <20070803105557.GA91-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-03 21:36                                                         ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-08-02  7:37                                 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-08-01 19:48                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                 ` <20070801194811.GA196-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02  7:29                                   ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                     ` <20070802072958.GA729-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 15:40                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                         ` <20070802154018.GA93-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 17:20                                           ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                             ` <20070802172033.GA8011-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 17:31                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                 ` <20070802173128.GA2616-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 18:36                                                   ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                                     ` <20070802183608.GB15332-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 18:49                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                         ` <20070802184953.GA316-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 19:13                                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-07-26 14:58   ` [PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B6AD.4000307-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  5:57       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20070727055736.GC23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:44           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-29 14:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729143136.GH120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:49           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46AD89E6.1030607-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31 10:04               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-27  4:22   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20070727042213.GB23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:08       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20070727060856.GD23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:47           ` Pavel Emelyanov

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