From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: aeriksson@fastmail.fm, Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
cpufreq@www.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: speedstep capability checks
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:01:14 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040316130114.GA13713@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040316073847.GA7597@dominikbrodowski.de>
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 08:38:47AM +0100, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
> So, Anders' CPU reports itself to be non-SpeedStep-capable. However,
> SpeedStep runs fine on his CPU. We can't enable SpeedStep on all CPUs [even
> of the same stepping (model/brand are the same anyway)] as we don't know if
> all of them work fine if running SpeedStep on them -- or if it causes
> (permanent) hardware failure! Some, who know it works from running a
> different OS, and possibly a specific vendor-provided driver on their
> notebook, might want to skip this test and try out their luck. But then they
> know what they're doing, and that they're risking their own hardware.
We've already seen quite a few confused users who thought that throttling == speedstep.
This sounds like handing someone a gun and saying 'point it at your head,
pull the trigger, it might miss'.
> A few SpeedStep-capable systems don't perform according to specification: the
> CPUID and/or some MSRs don't tell us the CPU is SpeedStep capable even though
> it definitely is.
Is there nothing in the errata documents about this ?
> Allow a relaxed checking for one such issue by a module
> parameter only available if a config option is turned on. This is done to
> avoid the risk of doing invalid speedstep instructions on systems which do
> not support it, and which might even lead to (hardware) failure.
I'd merge this really as a last resort, and it's beginning to sound like
we don't really have any options (other than not support those broken boxes). Ugh.
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-16 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-14 15:20 speedstep capability checks aeriksson
2004-03-15 14:15 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-08 11:15 ` add new p3m model Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-08 11:47 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-03-08 11:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-08 12:08 ` Bas Mevissen
2004-03-08 13:31 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-14 14:34 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-15 14:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-15 14:38 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-15 14:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-15 15:46 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-15 15:55 ` Dave Jones
2004-03-15 14:20 ` speedstep capability checks Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-15 15:37 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-15 19:25 ` aeriksson
2004-03-15 19:35 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-15 19:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-15 19:50 ` [updated patch] " Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-15 21:09 ` Dave Jones
2004-03-16 7:38 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-16 13:01 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2004-03-16 15:01 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-16 15:58 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-16 16:00 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-03-16 16:36 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-18 19:57 ` aeriksson
2004-03-19 11:06 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-15 18:36 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-15 19:20 ` aeriksson
2004-03-15 19:36 ` Bruno Ducrot
2004-03-15 19:46 ` Dominik Brodowski
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