From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: John Utz <John.Utz@wdc.com>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Cc: "dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Kent Overstreet <kmo@daterainc.com>
Subject: ZAC target (Was: Re: dm-multipath: Accept failed paths for multipath maps)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:23:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53CD226D.1070309@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8A51900D08212F40B3DE22453052F69839C46EC0@wdscexmb02>
On 07/18/2014 07:04 PM, John Utz wrote:
>> On 07/18/2014 05:31 AM, John Utz wrote:
>>> Thankyou very much for the exhaustive answer! I forwarded on to my
>>> project peers because i don't think any of us where aware of the
>>> existing infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Of course, said infrastructure would have to be taught about ZAC,
>>> but it seems like it would be a nice place to start testing from....
>>>
>> ZAC is a different beast altogether; I've posted an initial set of
>> patches a while back on linux-scsi.
>> But I don't think multipath needs to be changed for that.
>> Other areas of device-mapper most certainly do.
>
> Pretty sure John is working on a new ZAC-oriented DM target.
>
> YUP.
>
> Per Ted T'so's suggestion several months ago, the goal is to create
> a new DM target that implements the ZAC/ZBC command set and the SMR
> write pointer architecture so that FSfolksen can try their hand at
> porting their stuff to it.
>
> It's in the very early stages so there is nothing to show yet, but
> development is ongoing. There are a few unknowns about how to surface
> some specific behaviors (new verbs and errors, particularly errors
> with sense codes that return a write pointer) but i have not gotten
> far enuf along in development to be able to construct succint and
> specific questions on the topic so that will have to wait for a bit.
>
I was pondering the 'best' ZAC implementation, too, and found the
'report zones' command _very_ cumbersome to use.
Especially the fact that in theory each zone could have a different
size _and_ plenty of zones could be present will be making zone
lookup hellish.
However: it seems to me that we might benefit from a generic
'block boundaries' implementation.
Reasoning here is that several subsystems (RAID, ZAC/ZBC, and things
like referrals) impose I/O scheduling boundaries which must not be
crossed when assembling requests.
Seeing that we already have some block limitations I was wondering
if we couldn't have some set of 'I/O scheduling boundaries' as part
of the request_queue structure.
Kent, Jens; comments here?
Cheers,
Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-21 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-18 7:52 [PATCHv2] dm-multipath: Accept failed paths for multipath maps Hannes Reinecke
2013-12-18 14:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-12-18 14:25 ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-12-18 15:28 ` Stewart, Sean
2013-12-19 8:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-19 1:14 ` Mike Snitzer
2014-02-19 8:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-07-18 0:04 ` Mike Snitzer
2014-07-18 0:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2014-07-18 6:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-18 16:04 ` Mike Snitzer
2014-07-18 16:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2014-07-21 6:05 ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-18 0:29 ` John Utz
2014-07-18 2:18 ` Mike Snitzer
2014-07-18 3:31 ` John Utz
2014-07-18 5:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-18 14:38 ` Mike Snitzer
2014-07-18 17:04 ` John Utz
2014-07-21 14:23 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2014-07-21 19:28 ` ZAC target (Was: Re: dm-multipath: Accept failed paths for multipath maps) Kent Overstreet
2014-07-22 5:46 ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-22 8:08 ` Matias Bjorling
2014-07-18 16:51 ` dm-multipath: Accept failed paths for multipath maps John Utz
2014-07-18 6:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-12-18 15:28 ` Merla, ShivaKrishna
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