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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Marat Khalili <qm2k21@gmail.com>
Cc: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Wathsala Vithanage <wathsala.vithanage@arm.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/29] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 09:31:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261013093140.6b763438@phoenix.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31fc3286-242e-4104-9247-330a3d1ce217@gmail.com>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 17:04:33 +0100
Marat Khalili <qm2k21@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 13/10/2026 08:54, David Marchand wrote:
> > This blocks the SMP barrier removal for rc1.
> >
> > What is your proposal?
> >
> > I think it makes sense to take
> > https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/list/?series=39599 first, then
> > resolve the conflict for the patch from this thread.
> > Is this BPF series ready for merge?
> >
> > If it is not ready yet, what should be done on the current patch?
> > Is a s/rte_smp_rmb()/rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_seq_cst)/ enough?
> > The commitlog would also need some rewritting.  
> 
> I think we should be able to unblock this patchset with the diff below. 
> Last version contains some additional out-of-scope changes that might 
> not be helpful in the long run, but I tend to believe Stephen and 
> Wathsala that they are not breaking anything (I have not checked it 
> myself). If the version below is ok with Stephen I would prefer it 
> (consider it acked), otherwise I can withdraw my NAK for the sake of the 
> release, at the cost of some potentially confusing noise in the commit 
> history in the future.
> 
> diff --git a/lib/bpf/bpf_pkt.c b/lib/bpf/bpf_pkt.c
> index f072fdaaed..0d0c37cdc5 100644
> --- a/lib/bpf/bpf_pkt.c
> +++ b/lib/bpf/bpf_pkt.c
> @@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ bpf_eth_cbi_inuse(struct bpf_eth_cbi *cbi)
>   {
>          cbi->use++;
>          /* make sure no store/load reordering could happen */
> -       rte_smp_mb();
> +       rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_seq_cst);
>   }
> 
>   /*
> @@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ static __rte_always_inline void
>   bpf_eth_cbi_unuse(struct bpf_eth_cbi *cbi)
>   {
>          /* make sure all previous loads are completed */
> -       rte_smp_rmb();
> +       rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_release);
>          cbi->use++;
>   }
> 
> @@ -105,7 +105,7 @@ bpf_eth_cbi_wait(const struct bpf_eth_cbi *cbi)
>          uint32_t puse;
> 
>          /* make sure all previous loads and stores are completed */
> -       rte_smp_mb();
> +       rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_seq_cst);
> 
>          puse = cbi->use;
> 
> @@ -439,7 +439,7 @@ bpf_eth_cbi_unload(struct bpf_eth_cbi *bc)
>   {
>          /* mark this cbi as empty */
>          bc->cb = NULL;
> -       rte_smp_mb();
> +       rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_seq_cst);
> 
>          /* make sure datapath doesn't use bpf anymore, then destroy bpf */
>          bpf_eth_cbi_wait(bc);
> 

I am not a language lawyer, but what I read is that C11 atomic fence
is defined to only guarantee ordering of atomic objects. Since the use
counter is not atomic in the original code, the replacement with
rte_atomic_thread_fence() is not the same as original asm.

My patch made these atomic and that is why.

Should have no impact in datapath.

I will respin with better human oriented comments, I have developed
a distaste for AI prose. Reads like a lawyer wrote it.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-13 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-29 17:53 [RFC 00/32] remove rte_smp barrier functions Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 01/32] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  8:48   ` Marat Khalili
2026-07-30 11:19     ` Marat Khalili
2026-07-30 12:51       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-30  9:23   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 02/32] test: remove test for rte_smp_mb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  7:25   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 03/32] bus/vmbus: fix ring buffer ordering on weakly ordered CPUs Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-05  1:22   ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 04/32] bus/vmbus: fix missing acquire on receive ring index Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-05  1:23   ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 05/32] bus/vmbus: replace SMP barriers with C11 memory fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-13 21:41   ` [EXTERNAL] " Long Li
2026-07-29 17:53 ` [RFC 06/32] baseband: convert rte_smp_rmb to fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 07/32] net/hinic: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 08/32] net/intel: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-13 10:17   ` Bruce Richardson
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 09/32] crypto_caam_jr: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-06  6:10   ` Hemant Agrawal
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 10/32] net/virtio: replcae rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 11/32] net/thunderx: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 12/32] stack: always use C11 memory model implementation Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-31 14:53   ` Morten Brørup
2026-08-01 15:25     ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-01 17:01     ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-02  6:33       ` Morten Brørup
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 13/32] ring: replace SMP read barrier with C11 acquire fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  8:16   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-31 14:47   ` Morten Brørup
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 14/32] crypto/virtio: update comment reference to rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 15/32] event/sw: fix unlinks in progress counter races Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-13 10:38   ` Bruce Richardson
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 16/32] event/sw: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 17/32] eal/x86: move optimized fence out of SMP barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-30  7:27   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 18/32] common/octeontx: remove redundant barrier in mbox Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 19/32] crypto/caam_jr: use IO barrier before job ring doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-06  6:11   ` Hemant Agrawal
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 20/32] crypto/octeontx: use IO barrier before doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 21/32] mempool/octeontx: use IO barrier in pool destroy Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 22/32] event/octeontx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 23/32] event/dpaa2: replace deprecated barrier in selftest Stephen Hemminger
2026-08-06  6:11   ` Hemant Agrawal
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 24/32] event/dsw: replace SMP barriers with release fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-31  4:37   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 25/32] event/opdl: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 26/32] net/netvsc: replace SMP barrier in RNDIS response Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 27/32] net/thunderx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 28/32] net/virtio: replace deprecated barrier in avail index update Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 29/32] eal: remove stale SMP barrier in rte_service Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 30/32] eal: remove rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 31/32] checkpatches: no longer warn about rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-07-29 17:54 ` [RFC 32/32] doc: update release notes about rte_smp_XX removal Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:09 ` [PATCH v2 00/33] remove rte_smp_XX barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 01/33] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:36     ` Marat Khalili
2026-09-23  9:49     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 02/33] bus/vmbus: remove packed attribute from ring buffer Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:37     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 03/33] bus/vmbus: fix ring buffer ordering on weakly ordered CPUs Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:39     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 04/33] bus/vmbus: fix missing acquire on receive ring index Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:40     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 05/33] bus/vmbus: replace SMP barriers with C11 memory fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  8:40     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 06/33] drivers/baseband: convert rte_smp_rmb to fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:09   ` [PATCH v2 07/33] net/hinic: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 08/33] net/intel: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 09/33] net/virtio: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 10/33] net/thunderx: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 11/33] stack: always use C11 memory model implementation Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 12/33] ring: replace SMP read barrier with C11 acquire fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 13/33] crypto/virtio: update comment reference to rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 14/33] crypto/caam_jr: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 15/33] crypto/caam_jr: use IO barrier before job ring doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 16/33] crypto/octeontx: use IO barrier before doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 17/33] event/sw: fix unlinks in progress counter races Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 18/33] event/sw: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 19/33] test/barrier: test sequentially consistent fence only Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-04 12:57     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2026-10-05 13:45       ` Sun Yuechi
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 20/33] eal/x86: move optimized fence out of SMP barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 21/33] common/octeontx: remove redundant barrier in mbox Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 22/33] mempool/octeontx: use IO barrier in pool destroy Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 23/33] event/octeontx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 24/33] event/dpaa2: replace deprecated barrier in selftest Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 25/33] event/dsw: replace SMP barriers with release fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 26/33] event/opdl: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 27/33] net/netvsc: replace SMP barrier in RNDIS response Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-21  9:00     ` [EXTERNAL] " Wei Hu
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 28/33] net/thunderx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 29/33] net/virtio: replace deprecated barrier in avail index update Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 30/33] eal: remove stale SMP barrier in rte_service Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 31/33] eal: remove rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 32/33] checkpatches: no longer warn about rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger
2026-09-20 18:10   ` [PATCH v2 33/33] doc: update release notes about rte_smp_XX removal Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-07 15:29   ` [PATCH v2 00/33] remove rte_smp_XX barrier David Marchand
2026-10-08 23:34 ` [PATCH v3 00/29] remove rte_smp_XX barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 01/29] bpf: replace deprecated SMP barriers with C11 fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-09  6:05     ` Wathsala Vithanage
2026-10-09 15:48       ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-12 15:40         ` Wathsala Vithanage
2026-10-12 18:52       ` Marat Khalili
2026-10-13  7:54         ` David Marchand
2026-10-13 16:04           ` Marat Khalili
2026-10-13 16:31             ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2026-10-13 21:11               ` Marat Khalili
2026-10-13 22:05                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 02/29] bus/vmbus: remove packed attribute from ring buffer Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 03/29] bus/vmbus: fix ring buffer ordering on weakly ordered CPUs Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 04/29] bus/vmbus: fix missing acquire on receive ring index Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 05/29] bus/vmbus: replace SMP barriers with C11 memory fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 06/29] drivers/baseband: convert rte_smp_rmb to fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-13 18:15     ` Chautru, Nicolas
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 07/29] net/hinic: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 08/29] net/intel: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 09/29] net/virtio: " Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 10/29] net/thunderx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 11/29] stack: always use C11 memory model implementation Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 12/29] ring: replace SMP read barrier with C11 acquire fence Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-09  4:05     ` Wathsala Vithanage
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 13/29] crypto/virtio: update comment reference to rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 14/29] crypto/caam_jr: replace rte_smp_rmb Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 15/29] crypto/caam_jr: use IO barrier before job ring doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 16/29] crypto/octeontx: use IO barrier before doorbell Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 17/29] event/sw: fix unlinks in progress counter races Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 18/29] event/sw: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 19/29] test/barrier: convert to " Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 20/29] eal/x86: move optimized fence out of SMP barrier Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 21/29] common/octeontx: remove redundant barrier in mbox Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 22/29] mempool/octeontx: use IO barrier in pool destroy Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 23/29] event/octeontx: replace deprecated SMP barriers Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 24/29] event/dpaa2: replace deprecated barrier in selftest Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 25/29] event/dsw: replace SMP barriers with release fences Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 26/29] event/opdl: replace SMP barriers with C11 atomics Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 27/29] net/virtio: replace deprecated barrier in avail index update Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 28/29] eal: remove stale SMP barrier in rte_service Stephen Hemminger
2026-10-08 23:35   ` [PATCH v3 29/29] eal: remove rte_smp_XX Stephen Hemminger

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