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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>
Cc: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] drm/atomic: better doc for implicit vs explicit fencing
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:01:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180424120154.GU31310@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efj9ilf9.fsf@anholt.net>

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 03:04:58PM -0700, Eric Anholt wrote:
> Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> writes:
> 
> > Note that a pile of drivers don't seem to take implicit fencing into
> > account, or at least don't call drm_atoimc_set_fence_for_plane().
> 
>                                      ^atomic
> 
> > Cc'ing relevant people, or at least some. Some drivers also look like
> > they don't disable implicit fencing (e.g. amdgpu) because the explicit
> > fences and implicit fences are handled by entirely independent code
> > paths.
> >
> > I also wonder whether we shouldn't just make the recommended helpers
> > the default ones, since a lot of drivers don't bother to handle the
> > implicit fences at all it seems. The helpers won't blow up even for
> > non-GEM drivers or GEM drivers which don't fill out the gem bo
> > pointers in struct drm_framebuffer.
> >
> > Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
> > Cc: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
> > Cc: Sinclair Yeh <syeh@vmware.com>
> > Cc: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>
> > Cc: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@padovan.org>
> > Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
> > Cc: Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c             | 8 ++++++++
> >  include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h | 5 ++++-
> >  include/drm/drm_plane.h                  | 7 ++++++-
> >  3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c
> > index 7d25c42f22db..ec77afbda0c3 100644
> > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c
> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c
> > @@ -1492,6 +1492,14 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_set_fb_for_plane);
> >   * Otherwise, if &drm_plane_state.fence is not set this function we just set it
> >   * with the received implicit fence. In both cases this function consumes a
> >   * reference for @fence.
> > + *
> > + * This way explicit fencing can be used to overrule implicit fencing, which is
> > + * important to make explicit fencing use-cases work: One example is using one
> > + * buffer for 2 screens with different refresh rates. Implicit fencing will
> > + * clamp rendering to the refresh rate of the slower screen, whereas explicit
> > + * fence allows 2 independent render and display loops on a single buffer. If a
> > + * driver allows obeys both implicit and explicit fences for plane updates, then
> > + * it will break all the benefits of explicit fencing.
> >   */
> 
> Thanks for explaining why we should care about explicit fencing for
> display!  I'd been trying and failing to generate a usecase.
> 
> > diff --git a/include/drm/drm_plane.h b/include/drm/drm_plane.h
> > index d6da26d66a4b..1e2622e33208 100644
> > --- a/include/drm/drm_plane.h
> > +++ b/include/drm/drm_plane.h
> > @@ -80,7 +80,12 @@ struct drm_plane_state {
> >  	 * @fence:
> >  	 *
> >  	 * Optional fence to wait for before scanning out @fb. Do not write this
> > -	 * directly, use drm_atomic_set_fence_for_plane()
> > +	 * directly, use drm_atomic_set_fence_for_plane(). The core atomic code
> > +	 * will set this when userspace is using explicit fencing.
> 
> Optional suggestion:
> 
> 	 * Optional fence to wait for before scanning out @fb. The core
> 	 * atomic code will set this when userspace is using explicit
> 	 * fencing. Do not write this directly for a driver's implicit
> 	 * fence, use drm_atomic_set_fence_for_plane() to ensure that
> 	 * an explicit fence is preserved.

Yeah, that's better.
> 
> > +	 *
> > +	 * Drivers should store any implicit fences in this from their
> 
> Maybe s/fences/fence/ to make it more obvious that you can only attach
> one?

Both suggestions implemented while applying, thanks very much for your
review.
-Daniel

> 
> > +	 * &drm_plane_helper.prepare_fb callback. See drm_gem_fb_prepare_fb()
> > +	 * and drm_gem_fb_simple_display_pipe_prepare_fb() for suitable helpers.
> >  	 */
> >  	struct dma_fence *fence;
> 
> Regardless,
> 
> Reviewed-by: Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>



-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-24 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-05 15:44 [PATCH 0/9] implicit fencing clarification Daniel Vetter
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 1/9] drm/vmwgfx: Remove no-op prepare/cleanup_fb callbacks Daniel Vetter
2018-04-05 17:06   ` Thomas Hellstrom
2018-04-05 19:59     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 2/9] drm: Move simple_display_pipe prepare_fb helper into gem fb helpers Daniel Vetter
2018-04-06  9:42   ` Noralf Trønnes
2018-04-09  8:42     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-09 15:23   ` David Lechner
2018-04-10  5:55   ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 3/9] drm/tve200: Use simple_display_pipe prepare_fb helper Daniel Vetter
2018-04-06  9:40   ` Linus Walleij
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 4/9] drm/pl111: " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 5/9] drm/mxsfb: " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-20 21:54   ` Eric Anholt
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 6/9] drm/atomic: better doc for implicit vs explicit fencing Daniel Vetter
2018-04-20 22:04   ` Eric Anholt
2018-04-24 12:01     ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 7/9] drm/gem-fb-helper: Always do implicit sync Daniel Vetter
2018-04-20 22:11   ` Eric Anholt
2018-04-24 12:04     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-06-20 12:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-05 15:44 ` [PATCH 8/9] drm/vc4: Always obey " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-20 22:12   ` Eric Anholt
     [not found] ` <20180405154449.23038-1-daniel.vetter-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-05 15:44   ` [PATCH 9/9] drm/msm: Always obey implicit fencing Daniel Vetter
     [not found]     ` <20180405154449.23038-10-daniel.vetter-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-20  9:12       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-06  7:38 ` [PATCH 0/9] implicit fencing clarification Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2018-04-09  8:44   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-09  8:51   ` [PATCH] drm/xen-front: use simple display pipe prepare_fb helper Daniel Vetter
2018-04-10  5:56     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko

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