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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	 Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	 Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	 dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	 Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	 kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/13] drm/display: Convert helpers Kconfig symbols to depends on
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 11:26:25 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a816fea-9974-d17f-bed6-69728e223@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240327-kms-kconfig-helpers-v3-0-eafee11b84b3@kernel.org>

 	Hi Maxime,

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Jani recently pointed out that the Kconfig symbols are a bit difficult
> to work with at the moment when they depend on each other, and that
> using depends on would be a better idea, but no one really did the work
> so far.
>
> So here it goes :)
>
> It's been tested by comparing the riscv defconfig, arm
> multi_v7_defconfig, arm64 defconfig, drm-misc-arm, drm-misc-arm64 and
> drm-misc-x86 before and after this series and making sure they are
> identical.

That is not true: comparing drm-misc/for-linux-next to v6.9-rc2,
arm/multi_v7_defconfig, arm64/defconfig, and riscv/defconfig lost
several of:
   - CONFIG_DRM_DW_HDMI,
   - CONFIG_DRM_DW_HDMI_AHB_AUDIO,
   - CONFIG_DRM_DW_HDMI_CEC,
   - CONFIG_DRM_DW_HDMI_I2S_AUDIO,
   - CONFIG_DRM_IMX_HDMI.
   - CONFIG_DRM_MESON_DW_HDMI,
   - CONFIG_DRM_RCAR_DW_HDMI,
   - CONFIG_DRM_SUN8I_DW_HDMI,
   - CONFIG_ROCKCHIP_DW_HDMI,
   - CONFIG_SND_MESON_G12A_TOHDMITX,

> Let me know what you think,

IMHO this series looks like a big usuability issue for anyone
configuring the kernel, and you try to work around this by sprinkling
"default y" around.

The user should not need to know which helpers are needed for the driver
he is interested in.  When a symbol selects another symbol, it should
just make sure the dependencies of the target symbol are met.

Thanks for reverting ;-)

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

 						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
 							    -- Linus Torvalds

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-09  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-27 10:56 [PATCH v3 00/13] drm/display: Convert helpers Kconfig symbols to depends on Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:56 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] drm/display: Make DisplayPort AUX bus Kconfig name consistent Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:56 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] drm/display: Make DisplayPort tunnel debug " Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:56 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] drm/display: Make DisplayPort AUX Chardev " Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:56 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] drm/display: Make DisplayPort CEC-over-AUX " Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] drm/display: Reorder Kconfig symbols Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] drm/display: Make all helpers visible and switch to depends on Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] drm: Make drivers depends on DRM_DW_HDMI Maxime Ripard
2024-03-28 10:01   ` Jani Nikula
2024-04-02 15:43   ` Mark Brown
2024-04-03  6:50     ` Alexander Stein
2024-04-23  5:45     ` Mark Brown
2024-04-23  8:05       ` Jani Nikula
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_HELPER to depends on Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_DP_AUX_BUS " Maxime Ripard
2024-04-09  8:35   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_DP_HELPER " Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_HDCP_HELPER " Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_HDMI_HELPER " Maxime Ripard
2024-03-27 10:57 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] drm/bridge: it6505: Remove useless select Maxime Ripard
2024-03-28 10:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] drm/display: Convert helpers Kconfig symbols to depends on Maxime Ripard
2024-04-09  9:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2024-04-09 10:04   ` Jani Nikula
2024-04-09 10:35     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-09 11:12       ` Jani Nikula
2024-04-09 15:24         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-10 19:46   ` Diederik de Haas

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