FS/XFS testing framework
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>, Zorro Lang <zlang@redhat.com>
Cc: fstests@vger.kernel.org, Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	djwong@kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/12] common/rc: Add _require_fio_version helper
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 08:26:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08438a13-6be7-4be3-a102-35a1f6fec9a5@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aL_US3g7BFpRccQE@li-dc0c254c-257c-11b2-a85c-98b6c1322444.ibm.com>

On 09/09/2025 08:16, Ojaswin Mujoo wrote:
>>> This requires the user to know the version which corresponds to the feature.
>>> Is that how things are done for other such utilities and their versions vs
>>> features?
>>>
>>> I was going to suggest exporting something like
>>> _require_fio_atomic_writes(), and _require_fio_atomic_writes() calls
>>> _require_fio_version() to check the version.
>> (Sorry, I made a half reply in my last email)
>>
>> This looks better than only using _require_fio_version. But the nature is still
>> checking fio version. If we don't have a better idea to check if fio really
>> support atomic writes, the _require_fio_version is still needed.
>> Or we rename it to "__require_fio_version" (one more "_"), to mark it's
>> not recommended using directly. But that looks a bit like a trick 😂
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Zorro
> Hey Zorro, I agree with your points that version might not be the best
> indicator esp for downstream software, but at this point I'm unsure
> what's the workaround.
> 
> One thing that comes to mind is to let fio do the atomic write and use
> the tracepoints to confirm if RWF_ATOMIC was passed, but that adds a lot
> of dependency on tracing framework being present (im unsure if something
> like this is used somewhere in xfstests before). Further it's messy to
> figure out that out of all the IO fio command will do, which one to
> check for RWF_ATOMIC.
> 
> It can be done I suppose but is this sort of complexity something we
> want to add is the question. Or do we just go ahead with the version
> check.

I think that just checking the version is fine for this specific 
feature. But I still also think that versioning should be hidden from 
the end user, i.e. we should provide a helper like 
_require_fio_atomic_writes

thanks,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-09  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22  8:01 [PATCH v5 00/11] Add more tests for multi fs block atomic writes Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] common/rc: Add _min() and _max() helpers Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] common/rc: Add _require_fio_version helper Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-25 16:08   ` Zorro Lang
2025-08-27 15:16     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-28 15:09       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-29 16:59         ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-30 17:09           ` Zorro Lang
2025-09-01 11:40             ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02  5:30               ` Zorro Lang
2025-09-02  8:29             ` John Garry
2025-09-02 14:50   ` John Garry
2025-09-05 15:51     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-05 16:14       ` John Garry
2025-09-05 16:39         ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-07  5:18     ` Zorro Lang
2025-09-07  5:29     ` Zorro Lang
2025-09-09  7:16       ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-09  7:26         ` John Garry [this message]
2025-09-09  9:02           ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-10  6:07             ` Zorro Lang
2025-09-10  6:38               ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] common/rc: Add a helper to run fsx on a given file Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] ltp/fsx.c: Add atomic writes support to fsx Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02 15:06   ` John Garry
2025-09-05 16:29     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-08  7:53       ` John Garry
2025-09-09  6:57         ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-09  7:55           ` John Garry
2025-09-09  8:59             ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] generic: Add atomic write test using fio crc check verifier Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02 15:09   ` John Garry
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] generic: Add atomic write test using fio verify on file mixed mappings Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02 15:10   ` John Garry
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] generic: Add atomic write multi-fsblock O_[D]SYNC tests Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02 15:14   ` John Garry
2025-09-05 16:30     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] generic: Stress fsx with atomic writes enabled Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02 15:18   ` John Garry
2025-09-05 16:40     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] generic: Add sudden shutdown tests for multi block atomic writes Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02 15:49   ` John Garry
2025-09-05 17:06     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-08 14:27       ` John Garry
2025-09-09  6:44         ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-09  7:49           ` John Garry
2025-09-09  9:01             ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-09  9:04               ` John Garry
2025-09-09 11:43                 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] ext4: test atomic write and ioend codepaths with bigalloc Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-08-28 15:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-02 15:52   ` John Garry
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] ext4: Test atomic writes allocation and write " Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-02 15:54   ` John Garry
2025-09-05 17:10     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-09-08  7:39       ` John Garry
2025-08-22  8:02 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] ext4: Atomic write test for extent split across leaf nodes Ojaswin Mujoo

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=08438a13-6be7-4be3-a102-35a1f6fec9a5@oracle.com \
    --to=john.g.garry@oracle.com \
    --cc=djwong@kernel.org \
    --cc=fstests@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=ojaswin@linux.ibm.com \
    --cc=ritesh.list@gmail.com \
    --cc=tytso@mit.edu \
    --cc=zlang@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox