From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Ted Nyman <tnyman@openai.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
"Patrick Steinhardt" <ps@pks.im>,
"Karthik Nayak" <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] http: use unique tempfiles for packfile URI downloads
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 01:28:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260714052833.GA2516582@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alWXwAGWgXSXoRJv@com-76773>
On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 06:58:24PM -0700, Ted Nyman wrote:
> > Are there better ways for these processes to coordinate with each
> > other? Instead of appending to the file, what if the second process
> > uses a predictable temporary name (which we already use) to open a
> > new file with O_CREAT | O_EXCL to avoid this redundant work?
>
> Using the existing pack-<hash>.pack.temp name with O_CREAT | O_EXCL
> would prevent concurrent writes, but EEXIST alone would not
> distinguish an in-progress download from one left by an earlier
> failed or interrupted invocation. The existing .pack.temp name is not
> covered by the tmp_* pruning path, so simply waiting for it to
> disappear could leave a fetch stuck after a crash.
A few thoughts:
- Using O_EXCL makes this essentially a lockfile. So we could apply
the logic used elsewhere for lockfiles, like auto-removing files
with ancient mtimes. Or we could even go all-in with a pid check for
liveness; most of Git's lockfiles don't do that, but at least one
does (the background auto-gc lock).
- If we're not already using a name which is auto-cleaned during
maintenance, we probably ought to be. Leaving aside concurrency
issues, nobody would ever clean up the on-disk cruft.
But of course the original code here is intentionally _not_ using a
name we'd clean up, because it wants to be able to resume an
interrupted transfer. And you're explicitly breaking that for the
packfile URI case.
Is that a cost we're OK with paying? Fixing it opens up that same
coordination can of worms. You have to tell the difference a
concurrent writer and a previous dead one (whose work you can
resume).
It does feel weird that we'd do one thing for dumb-http and another
for packfile URIs. Wouldn't they suffer from the same concurrency
and resumption problems?
> The unique tempfile preserves the existing "download, index, then
> install" behavior for each invocation and fixes both the
> concurrent-append and EOF-resume failures. Avoiding the duplicate
> transfer would be useful for large packs, but I would prefer to keep
> that as a follow-up unless you think it is necessary for this
> correctness fix.
If we're OK with killing the ability to resume, then yeah, I think it
would make sense to start simple and un-break things. And then put a
coordination layer on top later (or never if nobody cares enough).
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-14 5:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-13 22:37 [PATCH 0/2] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Ted Nyman
2026-07-13 22:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] http: use unique tempfiles for packfile URI downloads Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 1:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-14 1:58 ` Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 4:07 ` Taylor Blau
2026-07-14 5:28 ` Jeff King [this message]
2026-07-14 4:06 ` Taylor Blau
2026-07-14 5:44 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 6:46 ` Jeff King
2026-07-13 22:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] fetch-pack: accept "pack" output for packfile URIs Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 7:12 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 7:13 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 4:13 ` [PATCH 0/2] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Taylor Blau
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