From: Taylor Blau <ttaylorr@openai.com>
To: Ted Nyman <tnyman@openai.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Patrick Steinhardt" <ps@pks.im>,
"Karthik Nayak" <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] http: use unique tempfiles for packfile URI downloads
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 21:07:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alW2EnNR21VmkESW@com-79390> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alWXwAGWgXSXoRJv@com-76773>
On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 06:58:24PM -0700, Ted Nyman wrote:
> > While that does sound like a safe and correct approach, stepping
> > back briefly, would it not be wasteful for the second process to
> > download the same packfile that the first has already started
> > downloading?
>
> Yes. If two fetches overlap, the second download is redundant.
>
> > Are there better ways for these processes to coordinate with each
> > other? Instead of appending to the file, what if the second process
> > uses a predictable temporary name (which we already use) to open a
> > new file with O_CREAT | O_EXCL to avoid this redundant work?
>
> Using the existing pack-<hash>.pack.temp name with O_CREAT | O_EXCL
> would prevent concurrent writes, but EEXIST alone would not
> distinguish an in-progress download from one left by an earlier
> failed or interrupted invocation. The existing .pack.temp name is not
> covered by the tmp_* pruning path, so simply waiting for it to
> disappear could leave a fetch stuck after a crash.
Exactly. If two processes are downloading the same pack at the same time
to different locations, the effort is of course redundant. But I don't
think we can reliably distinguish between that case and one where an
earlier process died in the middle of downloading a pack but was unable
to clean up after itself.
Thanks,
Taylor
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-14 4:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-13 22:37 [PATCH 0/2] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Ted Nyman
2026-07-13 22:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] http: use unique tempfiles for packfile URI downloads Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 1:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-14 1:58 ` Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 4:07 ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2026-07-14 5:28 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 18:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-14 18:31 ` Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 4:06 ` Taylor Blau
2026-07-14 5:44 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 6:46 ` Jeff King
2026-07-13 22:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] fetch-pack: accept "pack" output for packfile URIs Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 7:12 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 7:13 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 18:38 ` Ted Nyman
2026-07-14 21:47 ` Jeff King
2026-07-14 4:13 ` [PATCH 0/2] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Taylor Blau
2026-07-20 22:33 ` [PATCH v2 " Ted Nyman
2026-07-20 22:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] http: avoid concurrent appends to partial packs Ted Nyman
2026-07-21 19:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-20 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] fetch-pack: accept "pack" output for packfile URIs Ted Nyman
2026-07-21 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Ted Nyman
2026-07-21 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] http-fetch: correct --index-pack-arg documentation Ted Nyman
2026-07-21 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] http: avoid concurrent appends to partial packs Ted Nyman
2026-07-21 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] fetch-pack: accept "pack" output for packfile URIs Ted Nyman
2026-07-24 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Junio C Hamano
2026-07-25 9:09 ` Jeff King
2026-07-25 9:21 ` Jeff King
2026-07-25 10:02 ` Jeff King
2026-07-25 10:10 ` Jeff King
2026-07-25 16:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-24 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 " Ted Nyman
2026-07-24 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] http-fetch: correct --index-pack-arg documentation Ted Nyman
2026-07-24 21:38 ` Taylor Blau
2026-07-24 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] http: avoid concurrent appends to partial packs Ted Nyman
2026-07-24 8:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] fetch-pack: accept "pack" output for packfile URIs Ted Nyman
2026-07-24 21:46 ` Taylor Blau
2026-07-26 6:44 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Ted Nyman
2026-07-26 6:44 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] http-fetch: correct --index-pack-arg documentation Ted Nyman
2026-07-26 6:44 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] http: avoid concurrent appends to partial packs Ted Nyman
2026-07-26 9:20 ` Jeff King
2026-07-26 10:04 ` Ted Nyman
2026-07-26 10:27 ` Jeff King
2026-07-26 6:44 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] fetch-pack: accept "pack" output for packfile URIs Ted Nyman
2026-07-26 9:21 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Jeff King
2026-07-27 0:28 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] " Ted Nyman
2026-07-27 0:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] http-fetch: correct --index-pack-arg documentation Ted Nyman
2026-07-27 0:28 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] http: avoid closing index-pack input twice Ted Nyman
2026-08-01 13:53 ` Jeff King
2026-07-27 0:28 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] http: accept HTTP 416 for complete partial packs Ted Nyman
2026-08-01 13:58 ` Jeff King
2026-07-27 0:28 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] http: avoid concurrent appends to " Ted Nyman
2026-07-27 0:28 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] http: permit unlinking partial packs on Windows Ted Nyman
2026-07-27 0:28 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] fetch-pack: accept "pack" output for packfile URIs Ted Nyman
2026-07-29 21:41 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] packfile URIs: support concurrent downloads Junio C Hamano
2026-08-01 14:02 ` Jeff King
2026-08-08 16:23 ` Junio C Hamano
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