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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	"Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 2/2] Move libgit.a sources into separate "lib/" directory
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 09:33:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqpkzo39d2.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ansSg4qsPwh5FcR9@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:16:03 +0200")

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:

>> ... built-in commands in 'builtin', with subsystems like 'refs' and
>> 'odb' in their own directories, and everything else at the root
>> level, I would prefer to keep that organization until a substantial
>> subsystem update wants to carve out a new location for itself, just
>> as past updates to create 'builtin', 'refs', and 'odb' did.
>> 
>> Compared to those past moves, the proposed change looks more like
>> churn for the sake of moving things around, without achieving any
>> real organizational improvement.
>> 
>> I must say that I, too, remain skeptical.
>
> My main motivation isn't prettiness though, it's newcomers to the
> project. Git is not an easy project to get started in, and the root
> cause of that of course isn't our file layout but probably rather that
> Git has been growing organically for 20 years. But the file layout
> definitely doesn't help newcomers to find their way around in the
> product.

What I gave as good examples were not motivated by prettiness,
either.  Moving things around to lib/ as a whole ball of wax without
further classification would mean readers, whether new or old, would
not benefit from neatly classified set of files that gives readers a
concise and easy to understand rules like "you can visit builtin to
learn about individual command implementations".  To achieve a layout
that makes it easier to find our way around, you'd need to move
things again after moving everything into lib/.  Moving to lib/ by
itself does not add much value, if any.  It certainly does not add
any discoverability.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-11 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-16 13:24 [PATCH RFC 0/2] Move libgit.a sources into separate "lib/" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-16 13:24 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] t/helper: prepare "test-example-tap.c" for introduction of "lib/" Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-16 13:24 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] Move libgit.a sources into separate "lib/" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-17 17:08   ` Elijah Newren
2026-04-17 19:18   ` brian m. carlson
2026-04-17 21:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-17 21:51       ` brian m. carlson
2026-04-20  6:41         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-19 14:11 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] " Phillip Wood
2026-04-20  6:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-20 12:03 ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-21  5:55   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-04-21 14:13     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-22  6:39       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-22 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC v2 " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-22 10:38   ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] t/helper: prepare "test-example-tap.c" for introduction of "lib/" Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-22 10:38   ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/2] Move libgit.a sources into separate "lib/" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-22 13:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-24 10:32       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-24 11:23       ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2026-06-26 16:01     ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-06-26 18:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-01  6:54       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-27  6:40     ` SZEDER Gábor
2026-07-01  6:55       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-01 13:26         ` Phillip Wood
2026-07-01 14:45           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-02  5:21             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-06  4:29               ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2026-07-01  6:59 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/2] " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-01  6:59   ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/2] t/helper: prepare "test-example-tap.c" for introduction of "lib/" Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-01  6:59   ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/2] Move libgit.a sources into separate "lib/" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-13  5:52     ` SZEDER Gábor
2026-07-20 14:24       ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-07-20 22:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-08-11 12:16           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-08-11 16:33             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-08-11 17:05               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-20 21:53     ` brian m. carlson
2026-07-20 22:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-20 23:40         ` Taylor Blau
2026-08-11 12:15           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-13  5:50 ` [PATCH RFC v4 0/2] " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-13  5:50   ` [PATCH RFC v4 1/2] t/helper: prepare "test-example-tap.c" for introduction of "lib/" Patrick Steinhardt
2026-07-13  5:50   ` [PATCH RFC v4 2/2] Move libgit.a sources into separate "lib/" directory Patrick Steinhardt

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