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From: Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: grub-probe detects ext4 wronly as ext2
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:01:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1214938873.15925.4.camel@dv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1214937759.9353.64.camel@localhost>

On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 20:42 +0200, Javier Martín wrote:

> Well, what can I say about this: INCOMPAT_* flags are so for a reason,
> and they are telling us "don't even try to read this filesystem if you
> don't implement this". It's true that _maybe_ the files we need don't
> have extents, or compression, or other incompatible things, but then
> we'd have to strengthen _every other_ routine in the driver, like those
> that read inodes, guarding them against format changes that we have
> probably ignored bypassing the incompatible features check. From the POV
> of correctness I'd prefer to have a single point of "failure" in the
> mount routine.
> 
> Also, as a GRUB user I would find it quite strange that a filesystem
> that is listed as recognized and whose files can be lsed would not let
> me access a particular file because (insert unrecognized inode format
> error here). I _would_ understand such errors if the system showed the
> partition as "unrecognized" and then I had to specifically request it to
> be mounted as ext2 with a possible --ignore-incompatible flag, because
> then I would be knowingly doing something "risky", but the system should
> not take such kind of decisions on its own unless the GRUB developers
> _know_ about a particular flag and, after weighing the pros and cons,
> specifically decide to ignore it (like the proposed patch does with
> needs_recovery). However, doing that with possibly unknown future flags
> is a no-go.

OK, I wasn't arguing against your patch.  I just tried to explain why we
can relax some criteria compared to what a filesystem driver in a kernel
would do.  I actually agree with most of your arguments.

-- 
Regards,
Pavel Roskin



  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-01 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-29 18:11 grub-probe detects ext4 wronly as ext2 Felix Zielcke
2008-06-29 18:46 ` Javier Martín
2008-06-29 19:17   ` Bean
2008-06-29 19:53     ` Javier Martín
2008-06-29 21:19       ` Robert Millan
2008-06-30  3:02         ` Javier Martín
2008-06-30  7:10           ` Felix Zielcke
2008-06-30 11:14           ` Isaac Dupree
2008-06-30 12:12             ` Javier Martín
2008-06-30 12:27               ` Bean
2008-06-30 12:43                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-01 16:08                 ` Robert Millan
2008-07-01 16:25                   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-01 18:42                     ` Javier Martín
2008-07-01 19:01                       ` Pavel Roskin [this message]
2008-07-01 20:48                       ` Robert Millan
2008-07-01 23:05                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-01 23:28                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-02 14:22                           ` Robert Millan
2008-07-02 16:03                             ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-02 19:32                             ` Javier Martín
2008-07-03 14:02                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-03 14:21                                 ` Isaac Dupree
2008-07-03 17:07                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04  0:08                                   ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04  1:20                                     ` Javier Martín
2008-08-05 17:23                                       ` Felix Zielcke
2008-08-06 10:36                                         ` Felix Zielcke
2008-08-11  0:35                                           ` Javier Martín
2008-08-11  7:56                                             ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-04  1:32                                     ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04  6:49                                       ` Bean
2008-07-04  8:33                                         ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-04 10:34                                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 11:29                                           ` Bean
2008-07-04 12:00                                             ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 14:09                                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 14:33                                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 14:11                                               ` Bean
2008-07-04 14:34                                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 14:04                                           ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 14:23                                             ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 14:21                                       ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 14:45                                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 18:57                                           ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 20:41                                             ` Javier Martín
2008-07-05 12:07                                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-05 18:36                                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 15:09                                                   ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 15:27                                                     ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 16:38                                                       ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 17:13                                                         ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 17:21                                                           ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 17:44                                                             ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 19:07                                                               ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 19:33                                                                 ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-19 14:27                                                   ` Robert Millan
2008-08-11 14:14                                                     ` Javier Martín
2008-08-27 13:58                                                       ` Felix Zielcke
2008-08-30 11:17                                                       ` Robert Millan
2008-08-30 21:28                                                         ` Javier Martín
2008-09-24 17:05                                                           ` Javier Martín
2009-02-04  7:41                                                       ` Felix Zielcke
2009-02-04 13:08                                                         ` Javier Martín
2009-02-07 19:30                                                           ` Felix Zielcke
2009-02-07 23:54                                                             ` Javier Martín
2009-02-08  0:28                                                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-01 16:03           ` Robert Millan

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