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From: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: grub-probe detects ext4 wronly as ext2
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:04:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080704140456.GA2663@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1215167690.26019.78.camel@localhost>

On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:34:50PM +0200, Javier Martín wrote:
> > And, grub WILL follow the evolution the extN, because it's the primary
> > boot loader for linux. The only reason we don't have ext4 support at
> > present is because it's not stable. If major distro starts to use it
> > as default, we would have to support it as well.
> Please... ReiserFS was used for long in many distros and GRUB2 didn't
> support it until 1.96 - even with GRUB Legacy having implemented it long
> ago. I literally waited years for it to be included!

This is not a good example.  We were (and still are, though almost finished)
in the process of transitioning from GRUB Legacy to GRUB 2.  ReiserFS authors
weren't compelled to contribute a driver for GRUB 2 the same way they had been
to contribute it for GRUB Legacy.

> Besides, as I
> already said, we cannot win in a race against the future: new features,
> some of them incompatible, are introduced ""constantly"" (every few
> years) in extN, and until we get to know about them and at least decide
> whether they can be safely ignored, the sane behavior is to obey them
> and reject access (except if the user override is enabled). Yes, we can
> implement ext4 and possibly even before it's released as stable, but
> could you please start implementing ext7 so that we don't have to worry
> about its incompatibilities when it comes?

If this is really to be considered a problem, we might as well be conservative
in both grub-probe and real GRUB, and reject unknown flags.  Not a big deal,
since unknown flags aren't really going to use their "experimental" status
untill mainstream distributions support them, and this includes GRUB.

-- 
Robert Millan

<GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call!
<DRM> What good is a phone call… if you are unable to speak?
(as seen on /.)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-04 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-29 18:11 grub-probe detects ext4 wronly as ext2 Felix Zielcke
2008-06-29 18:46 ` Javier Martín
2008-06-29 19:17   ` Bean
2008-06-29 19:53     ` Javier Martín
2008-06-29 21:19       ` Robert Millan
2008-06-30  3:02         ` Javier Martín
2008-06-30  7:10           ` Felix Zielcke
2008-06-30 11:14           ` Isaac Dupree
2008-06-30 12:12             ` Javier Martín
2008-06-30 12:27               ` Bean
2008-06-30 12:43                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-01 16:08                 ` Robert Millan
2008-07-01 16:25                   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-01 18:42                     ` Javier Martín
2008-07-01 19:01                       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-01 20:48                       ` Robert Millan
2008-07-01 23:05                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-01 23:28                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-02 14:22                           ` Robert Millan
2008-07-02 16:03                             ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-02 19:32                             ` Javier Martín
2008-07-03 14:02                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-03 14:21                                 ` Isaac Dupree
2008-07-03 17:07                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04  0:08                                   ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04  1:20                                     ` Javier Martín
2008-08-05 17:23                                       ` Felix Zielcke
2008-08-06 10:36                                         ` Felix Zielcke
2008-08-11  0:35                                           ` Javier Martín
2008-08-11  7:56                                             ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-04  1:32                                     ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04  6:49                                       ` Bean
2008-07-04  8:33                                         ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-04 10:34                                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 11:29                                           ` Bean
2008-07-04 12:00                                             ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 14:09                                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 14:33                                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 14:11                                               ` Bean
2008-07-04 14:34                                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 14:04                                           ` Robert Millan [this message]
2008-07-04 14:23                                             ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 14:21                                       ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 14:45                                         ` Javier Martín
2008-07-04 18:57                                           ` Robert Millan
2008-07-04 20:41                                             ` Javier Martín
2008-07-05 12:07                                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-05 18:36                                                 ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 15:09                                                   ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 15:27                                                     ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 16:38                                                       ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 17:13                                                         ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 17:21                                                           ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 17:44                                                             ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-16 19:07                                                               ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 19:33                                                                 ` Felix Zielcke
2008-07-19 14:27                                                   ` Robert Millan
2008-08-11 14:14                                                     ` Javier Martín
2008-08-27 13:58                                                       ` Felix Zielcke
2008-08-30 11:17                                                       ` Robert Millan
2008-08-30 21:28                                                         ` Javier Martín
2008-09-24 17:05                                                           ` Javier Martín
2009-02-04  7:41                                                       ` Felix Zielcke
2009-02-04 13:08                                                         ` Javier Martín
2009-02-07 19:30                                                           ` Felix Zielcke
2009-02-07 23:54                                                             ` Javier Martín
2009-02-08  0:28                                                               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-01 16:03           ` Robert Millan

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