From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] media: dt-bindings: Use additionalProperties: false for endpoint: properties:
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:28:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241015112806.GA2712@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f265576c-7d83-40cb-b857-7ec54ef9ab46@kernel.org>
Hi Krzysztof,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 08:11:18AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 14/10/2024 22:29, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 10:47:31AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 14/10/2024 10:31, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
> >>> On 14/10/2024 08:45, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >>>> I do not understand the reasoning behind this change at all. I don't
> >>>> think DT maintainers ever suggested it (in fact, rather opposite:
> >>>> suggested using unevaluatedProps) and I think is not a consensus of any
> >>>> talks.
> >>>
> >>> No there is not but then, how do you give consistent feedback except
> >>> proposing something to be a baseline.
> >>>
> >>> On the one hand you have upstream additionalProperties: false and
> >>> unevaluatedProperites: false - it'd be better to have a consistent
> >>> message on which is to be used.
> >>
> >> Well, I am afraid that push towards additionalProps will lead to grow
> >> common schema (video-interface-devices or video-interfaces) into huge
> >> one-fit-all binding. And that's not good.
> >>
> >> If a common binding for a group of devices encourages you to list its
> >> subset, then it is not that common.
> >>
> >> Solution is to fix that, e.g. split it per classes of devices.
> >
> > I think splitting large schemas per class is a good idea, but the
> > problem will still exist. For instance, if we were to move the
> > CSI-2-specific properties to a separate schema, that schema would define
> > clock-lanes, data-lanes and clock-noncontinuous. The clock-lanes and
> > clock-noncontinuous properties do not apply to every device, how would
> > we then handle that ? I see three options:
>
> Why is this a problem? Why is this a problem here, but not in other
> subsystems having exactly the same case?
I won't talk for other subsystems, but I can say I see value in
explicitly expressing what properties are valid for a device in DT
bindings both to inform DT authors and to perform validation on DT
sources. That's the whole point of YAML schemas, and I can't see a good
reason not to use the tooling we have developed when it has an easy way
to do the job.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-15 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-12 15:02 [PATCH 0/2] media: i2c: Cleanup assigned-clocks and endpoint: properties: unevaluatedProperties: false Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-12 15:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] media: dt-bindings: Remove assigned-clock-* from various schema Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-12 17:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-10-14 7:43 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-14 8:29 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-14 8:44 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-14 10:08 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-14 10:20 ` Sakari Ailus
2024-10-14 10:34 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-14 10:46 ` Sakari Ailus
2024-10-14 20:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-10-15 6:13 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-15 11:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-10-15 16:46 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-16 7:47 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-12 15:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] media: dt-bindings: Use additionalProperties: false for endpoint: properties: Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-12 18:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-10-13 10:44 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-14 7:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-14 8:31 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-14 8:47 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-14 9:03 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-14 10:37 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-14 20:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-10-15 6:11 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-15 11:28 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2024-10-15 11:51 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-16 9:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-10-15 19:44 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-15 22:45 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-10-16 9:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
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