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From: Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar <mahesh-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Harald Hoyer <harald-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Initramfs Dracut
	<initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ananth Narayan <ananth-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Steven F Best <sbest-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Haren Myneni <hbabu-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	holzheu-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Firmware assisted dump support in dracut
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 14:51:28 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51AF0318.6070901@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130604141403.GG4799-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 06/04/2013 07:44 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 01:50:19PM +0530, Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar wrote:
>> On 05/30/2013 07:53 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 08:49:07AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>>> Sorry for restarting this discussion very late. I would like to know how
>>>>> safe is to rebuild kernel's default (boot) initramfs for an already
>>>>> installed kernel ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, Does dracut provides any of following mechanism?
>>>>> a) Mechanism where dracut can detect what options were used during first
>>>>> build for a given (exsisting) initramfs. (This mechanism may help one to
>>>>> regenerate similar initramfs with additional dracut modules.)
>>>>
>>>> currently dracut only stores which modules were used to generate the image in
>>>> usr/lib/dracut/modules.txt
>>>>
>>>> But yes, you are right. Would be nice to save all the options and have a
>>>> mechanism to regenerate it with those.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure how well it will work in the context of kdump.  kdump
>>> options and original options might conflict. kdump might drop some of
>>> its own cmdline options in initramfs which might not make any sense
>>> in regular boot.
>>>
>>> Kdump will specify additional mount points. IIUC, then we will try
>>> to bring up those targets in regular boot too and mount at user
>>> specified mount point. And later init services might get confused
>>> when respective daemon tries to bring up same targets again.
>>
>> I think we should be able differentiate between regular boot and boot
>> after crash by checking existence of '/proc/vmcore' file, and do the
>> kdump specific configs/mount if this file exists. In regular boot we can
>> mute the kdump code path
> 
> Also what about kernel command line? Kernel command line can be very
> specific to kdump environment. It is atleast in x86. I am hoping that's
> not the case with firmware assisted dump.

In fadump case, kernel command line is same as first kernel.

> 
> Also can you point me to some writeup of fadump again. I want to refresh
> what fadump is doing and how firmware is assisting and how does it make
> better than regular kdump.

It's at Documentation/powerpc/firmware-assisted-dump.txt in upstream
kernel.

> 
> I suspect it is very similar to s390 firmware dump (zfcpdump). Does
> s390 kdump or s390 zfcpdump reboot after saving dump or they have
> mechanism to continue to boot and hotplug memory after saving dump. I
> am wondering how do they do it.
> 
> CCing michael.
> 
> Vivek
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-05  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-28 16:12 Firmware assisted dump support in dracut Mahesh J Salgaonkar
     [not found] ` <20121128161234.GA8991-xthvdsQ13ZrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-29 10:14   ` Harald Hoyer
     [not found]     ` <50B73598.804-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-30 15:31       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-12-06  6:21       ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
     [not found]         ` <50C03971.4050104-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30  5:17           ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
     [not found]             ` <51A6E0E4.1000502-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30  6:49               ` Harald Hoyer
     [not found]                 ` <51A6F663.5030804-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 14:23                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20130530142318.GC2864-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04  8:20                       ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
     [not found]                         ` <51ADA343.2070100-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04 13:57                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-06-04 14:14                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                             ` <20130604141403.GG4799-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04 14:21                               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                 ` <20130604142123.GH4799-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-05 13:44                                   ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
     [not found]                                     ` <51AF40BB.5010703-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-05 14:55                                       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                         ` <20130605145504.GE16339-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-05 15:53                                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                             ` <20130605155316.GI16339-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  8:34                                               ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
2013-06-04 15:19                               ` Michael Holzheu
2013-06-05  9:21                               ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar [this message]
2013-06-04  8:34                   ` Mahesh Jagannath Salgaonkar
     [not found]                     ` <51ADA6AB.5010503-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04 18:42                       ` Andrey Borzenkov

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