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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	rob.clark@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] DRM planes
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:20:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111103222000.3cf429dc@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111103185811.GD2970@phenom.ffwll.local>

> We're talking about gpus, there's no way an application will talk to them
> than through some nice cozy abstraction layer like OpenGl, X, ... Even
> Wayland has gbm to do the low-level kms scanout allocation.

You are talking about scanouts. Nothing more. Nothing in KMS/DRM even
requires GPU accelerations.

> > However - user space is already working in fourcc, v4l has working fourcc
> > and dumping the mess on the user isn't going to be a win.
> 
> The mess will be dumped onto userspace anyway, but it won't be dumped onto
> the user - that one should use Xv or some fancy EGLImage extension.

Or quite likely in many embedded circumstances be working directly with
buffers and FourCC. Just like happens now with V4L. FourCC has its ugly
corners but its trivial to turn it into a table if you have a driver that
requires this. Old hat, old problem. Solved in AmigaOS in the 1980s.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-03 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-02 20:03 [PATCH] DRM planes Jesse Barnes
2011-11-02 20:03 ` [PATCH 1/5] drm: add plane support Jesse Barnes
2011-11-02 22:33   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 18:21     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 22:48       ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 22:56         ` Daniel Vetter
2011-11-04  2:22   ` Joonyoung Shim
2011-11-04 14:10     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-02 20:03 ` [PATCH 2/5] drm: add an fb creation ioctl that takes a pixel format Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 18:22   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-04  7:34   ` Joonyoung Shim
2011-11-04 14:13     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-02 20:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] drm/i915: rename existing overlay support to "legacy" Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 18:22   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-02 20:03 ` [PATCH 4/5] drm/i915: add SNB and IVB video sprite support Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 18:22   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-04  2:29   ` [Intel-gfx] " Lan, Hai
2011-11-02 20:03 ` [PATCH 5/5] drm/i915: add destination color key support Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 18:23   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 14:11 ` [PATCH] DRM planes Daniel Vetter
2011-11-03 15:12   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 17:29     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-11-03 17:36       ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 18:55         ` Rob Clark
2011-11-03 19:14           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 17:47   ` Alan Cox
2011-11-03 18:58     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-11-03 22:20       ` Alan Cox [this message]
2011-11-03 22:24         ` Jesse Barnes
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2011-11-07 18:02 Jesse Barnes

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