From: Ben Widawsky <ben@bwidawsk.net>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
Intel GFX <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Bryan Bell <bryan.j.bell@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/i915: Expose LLC size to user space
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:44:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130710184430.GG3326@bwidawsk.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130710180053.GC18922@cantiga.alporthouse.com>
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:00:53PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:46:47AM -0700, Ben Widawsky wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 06:40:02PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 09:40:18AM -0700, Ben Widawsky wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 09:59:01AM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 07:58:02PM -0700, Ben Widawsky wrote:
> > > > > > The algorithm/information was originally written by Chad, though I
> > > > > > changed the control flow, and I think his original code had a couple of
> > > > > > bugs, though I didn't look very hard before rewriting. That could have
> > > > > > also been different interpretations of the spec.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a cpuid query that can already be done more simply from userspace
> > > > > (i.e. with no syscalls)? I was expecting a lot more magic.
> > > > > -Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Chris Wilson, Intel Open Source Technology Centre
> > > >
> > > > Chad wrote this originally for mesa. And yes, it's doable from
> > > > userspace. Chatting with Daniel, we thought maybe other GPU clients
> > > > might want this info, and so a central place to put the code would be
> > > > nice, in case there are quirks or anything like that (I've had a
> > > > particularly hard time figuring out if Xeon really has L3 or not).
> > > >
> > > > So what's a central place? Libdrm, everybody uses that right? You can
> > > > read /proc/cpuinfo as far as I know, but then you still need to query
> > > > the HAS_LLC getparam to figure out what kind of L3 (or do your own
> > > > chipset ID check).
> > > >
> > > > In addition to the centrality argument, I noticed while poking around
> > > > cpuid in the kernel that it is a vitalized function. I'm not sure what
> > > > the purpose of this is, but it's something you can't fake in userspace.
> > >
> > > In fact, isn't this functionality already part of arch/x86, and isn't the
> > > value already exposed via /proc/cpuinfo?
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Wilson, Intel Open Source Technology Centre
> > >
> > Yes to the /proc/cpuinfo bit (I said that). If the implication is just
> > to use that code, I did a quick search and couldn't find it. I can go
> > back and check again. Assuming it's externally exposed to drivers, I
> > would rather use that.
> >
> > We still need the HAS_LLC check to differentiate the L3 though.
>
> You have to be careful about repurposing PARAM_HAS_LLC though. At the
> moment it has a dual meaning that the kernel/gpu supports LLC and that
> we default to placing objects in LLC.
>
> If you must expose cache_size through a param, make it a new one and
> make it explicit. I would also rather just use a param than parse
> /proc/cpuinfo (especially as some paranoid setups prevent access to
> /proc/cpuinfo).
I did a search, and I think my change is backward compatible, but if you
want a new param, I don't care.
>
> But we really should not be calling cpuid from our driver, that just
> looks very very ugly, and given cpuid's history will be a maintenance
> burden.
> -Chris
Okay, let me try again to find where it is parsed by the arch/x86 code.
>
> --
> Chris Wilson, Intel Open Source Technology Centre
--
Ben Widawsky, Intel Open Source Technology Center
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-10 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-10 2:58 [PATCH] drm/i915: Expose LLC size to user space Ben Widawsky
2013-07-10 2:58 ` [PATCH] intel_get_llc_size: Small tool to query LLC size Ben Widawsky
2013-07-10 6:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-10 16:58 ` Ben Widawsky
2013-07-10 17:15 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-10 17:24 ` Ben Widawsky
2013-07-10 17:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-10 8:59 ` [PATCH] drm/i915: Expose LLC size to user space Chris Wilson
2013-07-10 16:40 ` Ben Widawsky
2013-07-10 17:11 ` Ben Widawsky
2013-07-10 17:40 ` Chris Wilson
2013-07-10 17:46 ` Ben Widawsky
2013-07-10 18:00 ` Chris Wilson
2013-07-10 18:44 ` Ben Widawsky [this message]
2013-07-10 17:00 ` Bell, Bryan J
2013-07-11 0:16 ` Chad Versace
2013-07-11 5:06 ` Ben Widawsky
2013-07-11 18:52 ` [PATCH] [v2] " Ben Widawsky
2013-07-11 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] intel_get_llc_size: Small tool to query LLC size Ben Widawsky
2013-07-11 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] tests: Basic tools tester Ben Widawsky
2013-07-12 17:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] intel_get_llc_size: Small tool to query LLC size Chad Versace
2013-07-12 17:49 ` Ben Widawsky
2013-07-11 20:46 ` [PATCH] [v2] drm/i915: Expose LLC size to user space Chris Wilson
2013-07-12 17:38 ` Chad Versace
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