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From: "Volkin, Bradley D" <bradley.d.volkin@intel.com>
To: Kenneth Graunke <kenneth@whitecape.org>
Cc: "intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/i915: Add OACONTROL to the command parser register whitelist.
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:26:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140326182605.GA28133@bdvolkin-ubuntu-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53331068.7090007@whitecape.org>

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:37:44AM -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
> On 03/26/2014 09:38 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 09:03:58AM -0700, Volkin, Bradley D wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:21:23PM -0700, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:52:03PM -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
> >>>> Mesa needs to be able to write OACONTROL in order to expose the
> >>>> Observability Architecture's performance counters via OpenGL.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Kenneth Graunke <kenneth@whitecape.org>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot for quickly tracking this down. Now when we've talked about
> >>> OA a little while ago we concluded that mesa should clear OACONTROL again
> >>> before the batch ends to make sure that userspace can't unduly observe
> >>> other processes. So I think it'd be worth to keep track of this with a
> >>> flag (set when OACONTROL is != 0 and reset when the batch loads 0). Also
> >>> we need to make sure that userspace sets the right OACONTROL modes (not
> >>> the one which streams into a global gtt buffer essentially). So some
> >>> additional work required.
> >>
> >> Ok, I'll look into this. And apologies for not catching it myself.
> >>
> >> If we have to do additional checks on fields within the registers then I
> >> suppose we'll need to limit those registers to MI_LOAD_REGISTER_IMM. That
> >> might require separate whitelists for MI_LOAD_REGISTER_IMM/MEM. Not the end
> >> of the world, but certainly some additional complexity.
> >>
> >> For the resetting check, are there other registers in the current list that
> >> should have this tracking? If so, is 0 the reset value in all cases?
> >>
> >> Let me know if there is anything in the works that would require additional
> >> registers or different uses of any registers.
> > 
> > Afaik there's no other register we want to reset again. I think all other
> > register we might want to clear are already part of hw contexts, so no
> > chance to leak stuff (e.g. the streamout registers and a end-of-pipe
> > counters). Ken might know of something I've missed.
> > -Daniel
> 
> Right, I think it's just OACONTROL.  I don't think there's a need to
> filter particular values.

Sorry, I don't follow you here. Can you clarify what you mean r.e. filtering?

> 
> I don't really buy the snooping problem, though...just because I leave
> OACONTROL set doesn't mean I'll get useful data.  Another context might
> clobber it, and empirically the numbers seem to reset across RC6 anyway.
>  So in actuality, they're likely to get bogus data.
> 
> Even if they did somehow miraculously get decent values, it basically
> gives information akin to 'top', which is unprivileged on every system
> I've ever used.

I tend to agree with this assesment. The data doesn't seem particularly
sensitive. Also, I assume this data is similar in nature to what you can
already get from graphics perf tools, right?

Thanks,
Brad

> 
> The other alternative is to have the kernel write OACONTROL to 0 after
> any batch that alters it.  Then the kernel wouldn't need to care what
> userspace does with it.  (I think Daniel preferred having userspace
> reset it, though.)
> 
> --Ken
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-26 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-26  5:52 [PATCH] drm/i915: Add OACONTROL to the command parser register whitelist Kenneth Graunke
2014-03-26  6:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-26 16:03   ` Volkin, Bradley D
2014-03-26 16:38     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-26 17:37       ` Kenneth Graunke
2014-03-26 18:26         ` Volkin, Bradley D [this message]
2014-03-26 21:48           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-26 22:34           ` Kenneth Graunke
2014-03-27  7:57           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-27 15:57             ` Volkin, Bradley D
2014-03-27 20:16               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-27 21:34                 ` Kenneth Graunke
2014-03-27 22:44                   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-03-27 23:22                     ` Kenneth Graunke
2014-05-16 19:05                       ` Jesse Barnes
2014-05-16 19:20                         ` Chris Wilson
2014-05-16 19:34                           ` Jesse Barnes
2014-05-16 19:49                             ` Chris Wilson
2014-05-16 20:12                               ` Jesse Barnes
2014-05-16 19:53                             ` Jesse Barnes
2014-05-16 20:12                               ` Volkin, Bradley D
2014-05-16 20:14                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2014-03-27 23:42                 ` Volkin, Bradley D
2014-03-28  7:36                   ` Chris Wilson
2014-03-26  9:57 ` Jani Nikula
2014-03-26 10:41   ` [PATCH v2] " Kenneth Graunke

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