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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Nikula, Jani" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/i915: Disable caches for Global GTT.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 21:09:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141106190952.GR10649@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141106105512.GF3250@nuc-i3427.alporthouse.com>

On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 10:55:12AM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 12:11:41PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com> wrote:
> > > Global GTT doesn't have pat_sel[2:0] so it always point to pat_sel = 000;
> > > So the only way to avoid screen corruptions is setting PAT 0 to Uncached.
> > >
> > > MOCS can still be used though. But if userspace is trusting PTE for
> > > cache selection the safest thing to do is to let caches disabled.
> > >
> > > BSpec: "For GGTT, there is NO pat_sel[2:0] from the entry,
> > > so RTL will always use the value corresponding to pat_sel = 000"
> > >
> > > Reference: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85576
> > > Cc: James Ausmus <james.ausmus@intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
> > 
> > Ok, I think this is -fixes + cc: stable material, but we need to be a
> > bit more elaborate on the commit message:
> > 
> > - System agent ggtt writes (i.e. cpu gtt mmaps) already work before
> > this patch, i.e. the same uncached + snooping access like on gen6/7
> > seems to be in effect.
> > - So this just fixes blitter/render access. Again it looks like it's
> > not just uncached access, but uncached + snooping. So we can still
> > hold onto all our assumptions wrt cpu clflushing on LLC machines.
> > 
> > I think this should be both in the commit message and code.
> > 
> > Chris, please correct if I've summarized this wrongly.
> 
> Me, I just get confused by the statement that writes through the System
> Agent to main memory are snooped.
> 
> But the statement that GTT + WC is coherent with the display as it was
> on SNB+ is certainly true.

I have a supicious mind so I simply had to go and verify this on my
IVB. Writes to a LLC cacheable scanout buffer through a GTT mmap did
not result in any cache dirt on the screen. So I must admit defeat.

I also did another experiment where I wrote the data through a cpu
mmap, which obviously resulted in plenty of cache dirt. But I then
followed it with a read through the GTT mmap (obj still mapped as
cacheable in GTT), and the data matched what I wrote, and it also
cleared the cache dirt from the screen. So any CPU GTT access will
snoop the caches and also causes a writeback of the cacheline. I
suspect it also invalidates the cacheline, but I didn't verify that
in any way.

So I guess I can rest easier now having witnessed it all with mine
own eyes :)

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel OTC
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-06 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-30 16:18 [PATCH] drm/i915: Disable caches for Global GTT Rodrigo Vivi
2014-10-31  7:44 ` Chris Wilson
2014-10-31 10:14   ` Ville Syrjälä
2014-10-31 10:20     ` Chris Wilson
2014-10-31 12:27       ` Rodrigo Vivi
2014-10-31 21:38         ` Ausmus, James
2014-11-04 18:29         ` Ausmus, James
2014-11-05 11:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-11-06  0:56   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2014-11-06 16:40     ` Jani Nikula
2014-11-06 10:55   ` Chris Wilson
2014-11-06 19:09     ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2014-11-06 20:53       ` Ville Syrjälä
2014-11-06 21:55         ` Rodrigo Vivi
2014-11-07  9:33         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-11-07  9:51           ` Chris Wilson

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