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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
To: Umesh Nerlige Ramappa <umesh.nerlige.ramappa@intel.com>
Cc: "intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH] drm/i915: Fix NPD in PMU during driver teardown
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 10:00:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ac56c34-85d8-bd06-e32a-fb341888f346@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ys3hvrtRHPw/15nT@orsosgc001.jf.intel.com>


On 12/07/2022 22:03, Umesh Nerlige Ramappa wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 09:31:55AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>
>> On 01/07/2022 15:54, Summers, Stuart wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2022-07-01 at 09:37 +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>> On 01/07/2022 01:11, Umesh Nerlige Ramappa wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 09:00:28PM +0000, Stuart Summers wrote:
>>>>>> In the driver teardown, we are unregistering the gt prior
>>>>>> to unregistering the PMU. This means there is a small window
>>>>>> of time in which the application can request metrics from the
>>>>>> PMU, some of which are calling into the uapi engines list,
>>>>>> while the engines are not available. In this case we can
>>>>>> see null pointer dereferences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fix this ordering in both the driver load and unload sequences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally add a check for engine presence to prevent this
>>>>>> NPD in the event this ordering is accidentally reversed. Print
>>>>>> a debug message indicating when they aren't available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> v1: Actually address the driver load/unload ordering issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Stuart Summers <stuart.summers@intel.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought this is likely happening because intel_gpu_top is running
>>>>> in
>>>>> the background when i915 is unloaded. I tried a quick repro, I
>>>>> don't see
>>>>> the unload succeed ("fatal module in use", not sure if this was a
>>>>> partial unload), but when I try to kill intel_gpu_top, I get an
>>>>> NPD.
>>>>> This is in the event disable path - i915_pmu_event_stop ->
>>>>> i915_pmu_disable.
>>>>
>>>> So i915 failed to unload (as expected - with perf events open we
>>>> elevate
>>>> the module ref count via i915_pmu_event_init -> drm_dev_get), then
>>>> you
>>>> quit intel_gpu_top and get NPD? On the engine lookup? With the
>>>> re-ordered init/fini sequence as from this patch?
>>>>
>>>> With elevated module count there shouldn't be any unloading happening
>>>> so
>>>> I am intrigued.
>>>>
>>>>> It's likely that you are seeing a different path (unload) leading
>>>>> to the
>>>>> same issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think in i915_pmu_disable/disable should be aware of event-
>>>>>> hw.state
>>>>> and or pmu->closed states before accessing the event. Maybe like,
>>>>>
>>>>> if (event->hw.state != PERF_HES_STOPPED && is_engine_event(event))
>>>>> {
>>>>>
>>>>> @Tvrtko, wondering if this case is tested by igt@perf
>>>>> _pmu@module-unload.
>>>>
>>>> A bit yes. From what Stuart wrote it seems the test would need to be
>>>> extended to cover the case where PMU is getting opened while module
>>>> unload is in progress.
>>>>
>>>> But the NPD you saw is for the moment confusing so I don't know what
>>>> is
>>>> happening.
>>>>
>>>>> I am not clear if we should use event->hw.state or pmu->closed here
>>>>> and
>>>>> if/how they are related. IMO, for this issue, the engine check is
>>>>> good
>>>>> enough too, so we don't really need the pmu state checks.
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Engine check at the moment feels like papering.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed as you say I think the pmu->closed might be the solution.
>>>> Perhaps
>>>> the race is as mentioned above. PMU open happening in parallel to
>>>> unload..
>>>>
>>>> If the sequence of events userspace triggers is:
>>>>
>>>>    i915_pmu_event_init
>>>>    i915_pmu_event_start
>>>>    i915_pmu_enable
>>>>    i915_pmu_event_read
>>>>
>>>> I guess pmu->closed can get set halfway in i915_pmu_event_init. What
>>>> would be the effect of that.. We'd try to get a module reference
>>>> while
>>>> in the process of unloading. Which is probably very bad.. So possibly
>>>> a
>>>> final check on pmu->close is needed there. Ho hum.. can it be made
>>>> safe
>>>> is the question.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't explain the NPD on Ctrl-C though.. intel_gpu_top keeps
>>>> the
>>>> evens open all the time. So I think more info needed, for me at
>>>> least.
>>>
>>> So one thing here is this doesn't have to do with module unload, but
>>> module unbind specifically (while perf is open). I don't know if the
>>> NPD from Umesh is the same as what we're seeing here. I'd really like
>>> to separate these unless you know for sure that's related. Also it
>>> would be interesting to know if this patch fixes your issue as well.
>>>
>>> I still think the re-ordering in i915_driver.c should be enough and we
>>> shouldn't need to check pmu->closed. The unregister should be enough to
>>> ensure the perf tools are notified that new events aren't allowed, and
>>> at that time the engine structures are still intact. And even if for
>>> some reason the perf code still calls in to our function pointers, we
>>> have these engine checks as a failsafe.
>>>
>>> I'm by the way uploading one more version here with a drm_WARN_ONCE
>>> instead of the debug print.
>>
>> Problem is I am not a fan of papering so lets get to the bottom of the 
>> issue first. (In the meantime simple patch to re-order driver fini is 
>> okay since that seems obvious enough, I tnink.)
>>
>> We need to see call traces from any oopses and try to extend perf_pmu 
>> to catch them. And we need to understand the problem, if it is a real 
>> problem, which I laid out last week about race between module unload 
>> and elevating the module use count from our perf event init.
>>
>> Without understanding the details of possible failure mode flows we 
>> don't know how much the papering with engine checks solves and how 
>> much it leaves broken.
>>
>> If you guys are too busy to tackle that I'll put it onto myself, but 
>> help would certainly be appreciated.
> 
> Looks like Stuart/Chris are pointing towards the unbind as an issue.
> 
> I ran this sequence and only the modprobe showed an error (FATAL: ... 
> still in use). What happens with the unbind. Should pmu also handle the 
> unbind somehow?
> 
> - run intel_gpu_top
> - unbind
> - modprobe -r i915
> - kill intel_gpu_top.

And it crashes or survives in this scenario?

Module still in use here would be expected since intel_gpu_top is 
holding a module reference.

And pmu->closed should be set at the unbind step via i915_pci_remove -> 
i915_driver_unregister -> i915_pmu_unregister.

We also need to try a stress test with two threads:

	Thread A		Thread B
	-----------		-----------
	loop:			loop:
	  open pmu event	  rmmod
	  close pmu event	  insmod

To see if it can hit a problem with drm_dev_get from i915_pmu_event_init 
being called at a bad moment relative to module unload. Maybe I am 
confused but that seems a possibility and a serious problem currently.

Regards,

Tvrtko

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-19  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-30 21:00 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH] drm/i915: Fix NPD in PMU during driver teardown Stuart Summers
2022-06-30 21:39 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success for drm/i915: Fix NPD in PMU during driver teardown (rev2) Patchwork
2022-07-01  0:11 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH] drm/i915: Fix NPD in PMU during driver teardown Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2022-07-01  8:37   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-07-01 14:54     ` Summers, Stuart
2022-07-04  8:31       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-07-12 21:03         ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2022-07-19  9:00           ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2022-07-20  0:22             ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2022-07-20  8:14               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-07-20 20:07                 ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2022-07-21  4:30                   ` Summers, Stuart
2022-07-21  7:43                     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-08-03 22:54                       ` Summers, Stuart
2022-07-01 18:09     ` Umesh Nerlige Ramappa
2022-07-01 13:54 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure for drm/i915: Fix NPD in PMU during driver teardown (rev2) Patchwork
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2022-07-01 16:15 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH] drm/i915: Fix NPD in PMU during driver teardown Stuart Summers
2022-06-30 22:45 Stuart Summers
2022-06-29 18:46 Stuart Summers
2022-06-30 10:29 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-06-30 19:04   ` Summers, Stuart

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